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Muslims pray like Jesus
« on: April 13, 2011, 06:05:36 AM »
Muslims are taught that they keep the "law" even though after the Hijra Muhammad switched his "holy" day, from the Sabbath, to Friday. So it should be painfully obvious they don't keep the law when they don't even keep the Sabbath.

Some Muslims even try to suggest that their daily religious routine is rooted in scripture by suggesting that because there is an instance in the Gospel of Jesus prostrating Himself, that it somehow means that Yahweh's people are supposed to prostrate ourselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol in the Kaaba in Mecca in repetitive prayer five times a day.

That Jews and Christians are even supposed to travel to Mecca and march around the Quraish's Kaaba 7 times as the pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn worshipers did - as Muhammad and his family had done as practicing pagans. This, as we are to wear long white robes while repeating the thinly repackaged pagan rituals in all the "stations" of the Hajj or Umrah.

Because Levite priests washed their hands and feet before entering their Tabernacle, it means that all Christians and Jews are supposed to perform ablution before prayer, since Muhammad declared that cleanliness is "one half of faith".

Because there are instances of fasting in scripture that it means we are supposed to fast for 30 days, beginning with the observation of a crescent moon.

Muhammad mentions the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, right alongside Jews and Christians, because 4 of his relatives set up a local sect of the Sabians that they called Ahnaf. And guess what?
The Sabians...

1. prayed five times a day
2. performed ablution
3. prostrated while praying
4. fasted for 30 days beginning with observation of the crescent moon.
5. wore long white robes

Muhammad was so deeply involved in this cult that the locals often referred to him simply as "the Sabian".

For more on this subject of the Sabians and a video
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2475.0

Is Islam even a religion?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2461.0

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 02:54:47 AM »
Muslims are taught that they keep the "law" even though after the Hijra Muhammad switched his "holy" day, from the Sabbath, to Friday. So it should be painfully obvious they don't keep the law when they don't even keep the Sabbath.

Some Muslims even try to suggest that their daily religious routine is rooted in scripture by suggesting that because there is an instance in the Gospel of Jesus prostrating Himself, that it somehow means that Yahweh's people are supposed to prostrate ourselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol in the Kaaba in Mecca in repetitive prayer five times a day.

That Jews and Christians are even supposed to travel to Mecca and march around the Quraish's Kaaba 7 times as the pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn worshipers did - as Muhammad and his family had done as practicing pagans. This, as we are to wear long white robes while repeating the thinly repackaged pagan rituals in all the "stations" of the Hajj or Umrah.

Because Levite priests washed their hands and feet before entering their Tabernacle, it means that all Christians and Jews are supposed to perform ablution before prayer, since Muhammad declared that cleanliness is "one half of faith".

Because there are instances of fasting in scripture that it means we are supposed to fast for 30 days, beginning with the observation of a crescent moon.

Muhammad mentions the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, right alongside Jews and Christians, because 4 of his relatives set up a local sect of the Sabians that they called Ahnaf. And guess what?
The Sabians...

1. prayed five times a day
2. performed ablution
3. prostrated while praying
4. fasted for 30 days beginning with observation of the crescent moon.
5. wore long white robes

Muhammad was so deeply involved in this cult that the locals often referred to him simply as "the Sabian".

For more on this subject of the Sabians and a video
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2475.0

Is Islam even a religion?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2461.0

Seek The Truth .

There is no specific sabbath day in Islam because we believe that Allah (swt) does not need any "Rest."

We don't have a Sabbath day in Islam. In our belief, God does not need to rest.. See the verse;

“Neither drowsiness nor sleep overcomes Him…He is not fatigued by taking care of both (Heavens and Earth)”. (2:255)

"O you who believe, when the Salat is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew. Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God's bounties, and continue to remember God frequently, that you may succeed."

However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

For You Brother

Sabbath Doesn't Mean Taking Rest....It means To Drop all worldly things (business,enjoyment...) AND HASTEN TOWARDS YOUR LORD TO GET HIS BLESSINGS.



« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 03:01:12 AM by ateef »

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 03:40:21 AM »
Muslims are taught that they keep the "law" even though after the Hijra Muhammad switched his "holy" day, from the Sabbath, to Friday. So it should be painfully obvious they don't keep the law when they don't even keep the Sabbath.

Some Muslims even try to suggest that their daily religious routine is rooted in scripture by suggesting that because there is an instance in the Gospel of Jesus prostrating Himself, that it somehow means that Yahweh's people are supposed to prostrate ourselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol in the Kaaba in Mecca in repetitive prayer five times a day.

That Jews and Christians are even supposed to travel to Mecca and march around the Quraish's Kaaba 7 times as the pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn worshipers did - as Muhammad and his family had done as practicing pagans. This, as we are to wear long white robes while repeating the thinly repackaged pagan rituals in all the "stations" of the Hajj or Umrah.

Because Levite priests washed their hands and feet before entering their Tabernacle, it means that all Christians and Jews are supposed to perform ablution before prayer, since Muhammad declared that cleanliness is "one half of faith".

Because there are instances of fasting in scripture that it means we are supposed to fast for 30 days, beginning with the observation of a crescent moon.

Muhammad mentions the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, right alongside Jews and Christians, because 4 of his relatives set up a local sect of the Sabians that they called Ahnaf. And guess what?
The Sabians...

1. prayed five times a day
2. performed ablution
3. prostrated while praying
4. fasted for 30 days beginning with observation of the crescent moon.
5. wore long white robes

Muhammad was so deeply involved in this cult that the locals often referred to him simply as "the Sabian".

For more on this subject of the Sabians and a video
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2475.0

Is Islam even a religion?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2461.0

Seek The Truth .

There is no specific sabbath day in Islam because we believe that Allah (swt) does not need any "Rest."

We don't have a Sabbath day in Islam. In our belief, God does not need to rest.. See the verse;

“Neither drowsiness nor sleep overcomes Him…He is not fatigued by taking care of both (Heavens and Earth)”. (2:255)

"O you who believe, when the Salat is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew. Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God's bounties, and continue to remember God frequently, that you may succeed."

However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

For You Brother

Sabbath Doesn't Mean Taking Rest....It means To Drop all worldly things (business,enjoyment...) AND HASTEN TOWARDS YOUR LORD TO GET HIS BLESSINGS.

Isa 40:28    Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, [that] the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? [there is] no searching of his understanding.

The sabbath was not because God NEEDED rest but because He wanted a day sanctified to Him as a day of rest for His creation and observation for prayer and worship.
Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 04:28:58 AM »
Muslims are taught that they keep the "law" even though after the Hijra Muhammad switched his "holy" day, from the Sabbath, to Friday. So it should be painfully obvious they don't keep the law when they don't even keep the Sabbath.

Some Muslims even try to suggest that their daily religious routine is rooted in scripture by suggesting that because there is an instance in the Gospel of Jesus prostrating Himself, that it somehow means that Yahweh's people are supposed to prostrate ourselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol in the Kaaba in Mecca in repetitive prayer five times a day.

That Jews and Christians are even supposed to travel to Mecca and march around the Quraish's Kaaba 7 times as the pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn worshipers did - as Muhammad and his family had done as practicing pagans. This, as we are to wear long white robes while repeating the thinly repackaged pagan rituals in all the "stations" of the Hajj or Umrah.

Because Levite priests washed their hands and feet before entering their Tabernacle, it means that all Christians and Jews are supposed to perform ablution before prayer, since Muhammad declared that cleanliness is "one half of faith".

Because there are instances of fasting in scripture that it means we are supposed to fast for 30 days, beginning with the observation of a crescent moon.

Muhammad mentions the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, right alongside Jews and Christians, because 4 of his relatives set up a local sect of the Sabians that they called Ahnaf. And guess what?
The Sabians...

1. prayed five times a day
2. performed ablution
3. prostrated while praying
4. fasted for 30 days beginning with observation of the crescent moon.
5. wore long white robes

Muhammad was so deeply involved in this cult that the locals often referred to him simply as "the Sabian".

For more on this subject of the Sabians and a video
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2475.0

Is Islam even a religion?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2461.0

Seek The Truth .

There is no specific sabbath day in Islam because we believe that Allah (swt) does not need any "Rest."

We don't have a Sabbath day in Islam. In our belief, God does not need to rest.. See the verse;

“Neither drowsiness nor sleep overcomes Him…He is not fatigued by taking care of both (Heavens and Earth)”. (2:255)

"O you who believe, when the Salat is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew. Once the prayer is completed, you may spread through the land to seek God's bounties, and continue to remember God frequently, that you may succeed."

However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

For You Brother

Sabbath Doesn't Mean Taking Rest....It means To Drop all worldly things (business,enjoyment...) AND HASTEN TOWARDS YOUR LORD TO GET HIS BLESSINGS.

Isa 40:28    Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, [that] the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? [there is] no searching of his understanding.

The sabbath was not because God NEEDED rest but because He wanted a day sanctified to Him as a day of rest for His creation and observation for prayer and worship.


Clear...You are Guided Now....And So will be The Others

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 07:17:05 AM »


Clear...You are Guided Now....And So will be The Others

Peace Be With You

I was not misguided to start with on the issue. I was merely pointing out that because God did do something isn't to suggest He had to. Just because God made you doesn't suggest He had to. Likewise, just because God rested didn't mean He had to. He chose to for His own reasons. One of those reasons was to establish a day of rest and worship for His creatures.
Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 02:44:51 PM »
However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

As per the topic title let's explore a little of how Jummah and Salat stack up against scripture. Historical events recorded in scripture are simply that, and do not automatically constitute ordinances that require imitation. So while the Gospel records an occasion in which Jesus prostrated Himself, it doesn't automatically create an ordinance for that, particularly when we are otherwise already given instruction on specifically how to pray.

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.

If we did that the way Muslims pray we would have to learn how to walk with our foreheads dragging on the ground! That verse describes constant contact and communication, through our relationship, with our Savior.

The Gospel also specifically tells Christians how NOT to pray:

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Muhammad's followers pray exactly in the vain repetitions that the Quraish pagan's and the Sabians did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU

Indeed even some of the phrases that Muslims repeat in vain repetitions are some of the very same phrases that the pagan Arabians did before Muhammad. Muhammad's followers even prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, and run back and forth between al-safa and al-marwah the way the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU

Islam cannot even be considered a religion, but a cult that follows Muhammad alone, while rejecting ALL of the prophets and witnesses as revealed in the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind. Indeed blaspheming the very Messiah that bought us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 04:20:10 AM »
However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

As per the topic title let's explore a little of how Jummah and Salat stack up against scripture. Historical events recorded in scripture are simply that, and do not automatically constitute ordinances that require imitation. So while the Gospel records an occasion in which Jesus prostrated Himself, it doesn't automatically create an ordinance for that, particularly when we are otherwise already given instruction on specifically how to pray.

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.

If we did that the way Muslims pray we would have to learn how to walk with our foreheads dragging on the ground! That verse describes constant contact and communication, through our relationship, with our Savior.

The Gospel also specifically tells Christians how NOT to pray:

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Muhammad's followers pray exactly in the vain repetitions that the Quraish pagan's and the Sabians did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU

Indeed even some of the phrases that Muslims repeat in vain repetitions are some of the very same phrases that the pagan Arabians did before Muhammad. Muhammad's followers even prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, and run back and forth between al-safa and al-marwah the way the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU

Islam cannot even be considered a religion, but a cult that follows Muhammad alone, while rejecting ALL of the prophets and witnesses as revealed in the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind. Indeed blaspheming the very Messiah that bought us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.


You are Just Stuck On The Blood....Just On the Blood...

We do Not use Vain Repetitions We glorify Allah...have You gone anytime in a mosque...???? Do You know??? Whats Recited??? Do You know to whom we bow..???

Indeed a great chastisement being prepared for you , of what i am sure!!! >:(

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 06:09:57 AM »
However there is a weekly congregational prayer called "Jummah" (which literally means "gathering") at the Mosque. This prayer replaces the usual noontime prayers on Friday and people do leave work and other activities to attend. It also includes a sermon and usually people gather and talk before and after.

As per the topic title let's explore a little of how Jummah and Salat stack up against scripture. Historical events recorded in scripture are simply that, and do not automatically constitute ordinances that require imitation. So while the Gospel records an occasion in which Jesus prostrated Himself, it doesn't automatically create an ordinance for that, particularly when we are otherwise already given instruction on specifically how to pray.

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.

If we did that the way Muslims pray we would have to learn how to walk with our foreheads dragging on the ground! That verse describes constant contact and communication, through our relationship, with our Savior.

The Gospel also specifically tells Christians how NOT to pray:

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Muhammad's followers pray exactly in the vain repetitions that the Quraish pagan's and the Sabians did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU

Indeed even some of the phrases that Muslims repeat in vain repetitions are some of the very same phrases that the pagan Arabians did before Muhammad. Muhammad's followers even prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, and run back and forth between al-safa and al-marwah the way the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU

Islam cannot even be considered a religion, but a cult that follows Muhammad alone, while rejecting ALL of the prophets and witnesses as revealed in the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind. Indeed blaspheming the very Messiah that bought us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE

Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

You are Just Stuck On The Blood....Just On the Blood...

That's the WHOLE SUBJECT of the bible, whether atonement for sin of the old covenant through the blood of animal sacrifice in Solomon's temple in Jerusalem, or the ONE sacrifice of the Messiah of the new covenant that saves all from sin who have faith in His shed blood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3Rgcw5lDw

Without the covering of Jesus precious shed blood we die wallowing in sin, separated from God forever. Jesus can give you a new heart too. All you have to do is ask Him.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

Why don't you listen to a few testimonies of your former brethren, that have come to know the love of the one true God through a relationship with Jesus Christ, on this YouTube channel?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

We do Not use Vain Repetitions We glorify Allah...have You gone anytime in a mosque...???? Do You know???

Yes I do. Some Muslims even use prayer beads just like the Roman Catholics so you don't loose count of the vain repetitions.



Whats Recited???

I understand it can vary a little from place to place, but in "Infidel" Ayaan Hirsi Ali explains part of salat, "You say Praise be to Allah thirty-three times; God forgive me thirty-three times; Allah is great thirty-three times; and then, if you choose, you may also say Gratitude to Allah."

Muslims are commanded to perform salat fives times a day. Muhammad lifted the five prayers a day straight from the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU

Do You know to whom we bow..???

Yes I do, do you? You bow to the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" while you prostrate yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca. The etymology of the name suggests it was most likely the name of the Arabian pagan's moon god.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLBam06iyg
Seems Yahweh even arranged to have the idol smashed to pieces the way Abraham smashed his father's idols, but Muhammad's followers collected up the pieces, cobbled them back together, and still prostrate to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol to this day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyWs__Y-rU

A demon that called itself Gabriel, also known as Satan, even made Muhammad feel it was squeezing the life out of him three times in the cave on that fateful day. In the same group of caves that others had experienced encounters with demons in. Muhammad even told Khadijah he had an encounter with a demon, but she talked him out of it, even though she wasn't there and had no idea what had happened to Muhammad. In other words, you can thank Muhammad's first wife Khadijah for your "religion". Seems Muhammad - who actually had the experience - knew full well it was a demon.

2Cr 11:14    And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Indeed a great chastisement being prepared for you , of what i am sure!!! >:(

Can't you begin to see? The only reason you believe that is because Satan, through Muhammad, convinced you that if you don't follow Muhammad (Satan) you are going to burn in hell fire. Simple child psychology. That's why one out of every nine verses in the Quran are about hell and punishment. Satan even has you calling on the Arabian pagan deities name and asking "I seek shelter from Satan", fooling you into believing that somehow that will save you, even as you reject the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel and the blood that would save you.

But Yahweh's people have followed Him for 3500 years, through two covenants, by ALL of the prophets and witnesses as revealed in His 1600 year record. Christians follow the sinless Messiah, the Prince of Peace the Lamb of God. The Messiah that you yourself was raised bodily to heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE_sti-uZc

Muhammad's followers follow MUHAMMAD ALONE through his STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record. A man that your own books reveal as a sinful, mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, self-admitted terrorist, and thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
Islam is not a religion, but an imperialistic, political, death cult, bent on conquest of all nations, and subjugation of all people, to Muhammad's followers. Just as it has been since the 7th century when Muhammad invented his scheme and mass murdered the innocent Jewish farm boys who had reached puberty, and their dads and grandpas of the faithful, literate, productive, peaceful prosperous Jewish community of the Banu Qurayza, while sexually enslaving their little sisters, mothers and grandmothers.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU

Wake up man. Since Muhammad professed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel - 600 years after the scriptures were closed - one of us is headed in a disastrous direction.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

That is exactly what the false prophet Muhammad did. That is the reward he faces. You don't have to suffer the same.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast {Islam} was taken, and with him {kingdom/beast is a "his" in Daniel} the false prophet [Mohammed] that wrought miracles [Quran] before him, [this means in the presence of the {beast - Islam - Muslims} with which he deceived them {Muslims} that had received the mark {666} of the beast, and them {Muslims} that worshipped his image. {today's Islam and second Jihad in the image of the Islamic First Jihad.  Jihad is the pinnacle of worship in Islam} These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

If you missed that link, here are some of Muhammad's followers on 666. God may have provided them as a warning to YOU.
http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

The NKJV does a little better job of this portion of this verse:
(NKJV) Revelation 19:20 ...and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence...
The Koine Greek word "semeion" translated as "miracles" and "signs" is defined in Strong's as "that by which a person is distinguished from others and is known". That makes Mohammed a perfect fit for the false prophet, since he is his known for his Quran, and has without question been distinguished from others by it for 1400 years.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them {Muslims} was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast {Islam} and the false prophet {Mohammed} [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

If we consider an ethnographic hermeneutic of John's whole "world" - that is looking through John's eyes at the time he penned the book of Revelation (which is required because he wrote about the things that were, are and will be, through his eyes) - John's world would have been limited to the Middle East area and perhaps extend into the lands of the Roman Empire at that time.  The Bible was written about the Holy Land and God's people, not Peoria Illinois. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 07:17:38 AM »
You say Praise be to Allah thirty-three times; Allah Mercy be with me thirty-three times; Allah is great thirty-four Times.

We Bow Towards The Direction Mecca..To get The Blessings and Mercy Of Allah...

Some use Beads...Most Use Fingers...Which Is the Grace Of Allah...

Muhammad's followers follow MUHAMMAD ALONE through his 23 year 7th century record. A man that your own books reveal as a sinful mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave.


By Allah If it would be in my Reach I would Surely Cut Your Hands...
And Your Blaspheming Tongue...

Go Read The History Properly....Do Not Make Me read Crap...Want to seek truth then Post Truth...


Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

I have The Book...It's Written In The Book...And It written for that book only....
My Prophet Did Not Add anything to it...

Revelation 19:20 And the beast {Islam} was taken, and with him {kingdom/beast is a "his" in Daniel} the false prophet [Mohammed] that wrought miracles [Quran] before him, [this means in the presence of the {beast - Islam - Muslims} with which he deceived them {Muslims} that had received the mark {666} of the beast, and them {Muslims} that worshipped his image. {today's Islam and second Jihad in the image of the Islamic First Jihad.  Jihad is the pinnacle of worship in Islam} These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


This Verses has Nothing To Do with My Prophet.You Lie And Add.








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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 07:27:15 AM »
By Allah If it would be in my Reach I would Surely Cut Your Hands...
And Your Blaspheming Tongue...

Go Read The History Properly....Do Not Make Me read Crap...Want to seek truth then Post Truth...

We know you would because you are filled with a spirit of hate. DO NOT POST ANOTHER SINGLE THREAT HERE OR YOU WILL BE KICKED OFF.

Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 07:34:49 AM »
You say Praise be to Allah thirty-three times; Allah Mercy be with me thirty-three times; Allah is great thirty-four Times.

We Bow Towards The Direction Mecca..To get The Blessings and Mercy Of Allah...

Some use Beads...Most Use Fingers...Which Is the Grace Of Allah...

Muhammad's followers follow MUHAMMAD ALONE through his 23 year 7th century record. A man that your own books reveal as a sinful mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave.


By Allah If it would be in my Reach I would Surely Cut Your Hands...
And Your Blaspheming Tongue...

You call it blasphemy, but what single detail that I listed is NOT TRUE, according to your own books?
You would have to agree that Jesus has no grave, Muhammad's corpse still lies in his.
The Hadith informs us thatAisha was 9 years old when 53 year old Muhammad had sex with her.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=769.msg11717#msg11717
Muhammad mass murdered the Banu Quraiza boys and men.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

If the beheading of those innocent Jewish farmers doesn't constitute mass murder - with malice - then the concept of mass murder does not exist.

After beheading Rayhana's husband and father he pressed her into service as one of his concubines. Do you really think a woman would desire to have sex with the man responsible for beheading her husband and father? Why don't you ask your wife if she would want to have sex with a guy that beheaded her father and you?
 
Ishaq:466 "The Apostle chose one of the Jewish women for himself. Her name was Rayhana. She remained with him until she died, in his power. The Apostle proposed to marry her and put the veil on her but she said, 'Leave me under your power, for that will be easier.' She showed a repugnance towards Islam when she was captured."
http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

Surely you wouldn't deny that Muhammad was a self-admitted terrorist: Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

After beheading the Banu Quraiza Muhammad and his fellow cutthroat thieves stole the land and other property. The fruit of the labor of the Banu Qurayza of generations.

Bukhari:V5B59N448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

What did Abraham do in the same circumstance after Yahweh ordered him to vanquish the kidnappers of his nephew Lot and family?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2075.0

Muhammad didn't even try to make the claim that it was his alter-ego "Allah's" judgment on them but he deferred to his booty coveting buddy Sa'd to pass judgment.

Muhammad taking for himself one fifth of all of the property stolen from others, just like an organized crime boss.

Sura 8.041 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...

You suppose "Allah" ever showed up for his share? After all Muhammad had a dozen or so wives, plus concubines and slaves to maintain, by some counts ranging into the 20s.

Yet for simply seeking the truth you would cut out my tongue and cut off my hands. That's just as Muhammad would have done - and did. That is exactly how Islam spread, by killing the truth. Muhammad even murdered poets, one in her sleep as her child lay on her breast.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1012.0

You see what you actually desire to do is kill the truth. I am simply the messenger that is pointing out the horrible truth of your blessed "prophet", as revealed through your own books. The EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah.

The ONE true God of the bible is very much different.

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Could you please explain to us what part, of what I wrote, is untrue.

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 07:45:21 AM »
By Allah If it would be in my Reach I would Surely Cut Your Hands...
And Your Blaspheming Tongue...

Go Read The History Properly....Do Not Make Me read Crap...Want to seek truth then Post Truth...

We know you would because you are filled with a spirit of hate. DO NOT POST ANOTHER SINGLE THREAT HERE OR YOU WILL BE KICKED OFF.

Why would you discourage him from making threats? It provides an excellent example, and demonstration, of the antichrist satanic influence in the hearts of Muhammad's followers. I don't think there is, or should be, a forum rule against it. It is perhaps understandable, since he may be so isolated within the Islamic community he lives in, that he may have never have had the opportunity to have been shown the truth regarding Islam and the Gospel before. It is another example that shows how Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel and how Christians are exhorted:

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

The stark contrast is that, as Christians, if someone chooses to blaspheme Jesus, we understand that is a matter between the poor soul who does it, and Jesus. No need for us to intervene, except perhaps to warn him where he is headed, by showing him the truth, as has been done in this thread.

It is Satan - the father of lies - whose lies are defenseless in the light of the truth, and thus his followers must kill the truth, wherever they find it. Just as Muhammad did in the 7th century. Just as bibles and Christian materials are banned or restricted in 53 countries today, and Muslims that come to know the love of the one true God through Jesus Christ in many Islamic countries, are beheaded.

Further consideration of his threat, and Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah's" defenseless nature, may help him to come to understand, that it isn't you or I that is his enemy, but it is truth itself, that is, and has always been, the enemy of Muhammadanism.

The prior post should have adequately conveyed to him that he cannot honestly label a single characterization that I made of Muhammad, as anything but the truth, and it wouldn't surprise me that deep-down, he knows it. Yet the spirit of antichrist may continue to make him turn away from the truth.

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 10:08:17 AM »
It was Not a Threat...It was what i would do to a transgressor.....In My reach...Any prophet Insulted or Blasphemed about deserves death and hell

Luke 19:27

And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

You Peter I told You to Be brief...Not lengthy....Half is Nonsense...half is fake...

What tabari,ishaq are you posting from...

Both of them just collected narrations with the chains of narration without authentication. The reason for this is that these books were not authored for the ignorant layman, they were authored for the scholars as books of research. The authors collected "All what was said" and not "all what is authentic" so that when the scholars read the books, they research the chains of narration.

And as far as Bukhari is concerned its adulterated by transgressors, misunderstood and translated by fools...

These Books have been Adulterated and Changed..

If you truthful...be concise...brief...Do Not give those nonsense links...



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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 11:25:38 AM »
It was Not a Threat...It was what i would do to a transgressor.....In My reach...Any prophet Insulted or Blasphemed about deserves death and hell

Luke 19:27

And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

Didn't you ever wonder how the Prince of Peace could be credited words that seem to suggest the exact opposite of peace? Yet you never wondered enough to even read the passage.
The following link addresses that specific passage.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=223.0

By quoting this verse from a parable about a nobleman that Jesus spoke to His Apostles - with your understanding ala Ahmed Deedat and other antichrist lying deceivers - what you have done is offered an excellent demonstration as to why Jesus spoke in parables.

Mark 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and [their] sins should be forgiven them.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=223.0

You demonstrated that your heart remains unconverted, and thus your sins, unforgiven.

You Peter I told You to Be brief...Not lengthy....Half is Nonsense...half is fake...

What tabari,ishaq are you posting from...

Both of them just collected narrations with the chains of narration without authentication. The reason for this is that these books were not authored for the ignorant layman, they were authored for the scholars as books of research. The authors collected "All what was said" and not "all what is authentic" so that when the scholars read the books, they research the chains of narration.

And as far as Bukhari is concerned its adulterated by transgressors, misunderstood and translated by fools...

These Books have been Adulterated and Changed..

I'm glad I don't have to run and hide from the contents my book! Mummar Kadafi tried to run and hide from the Hadith too, once saying that he would only follow the Quran.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=892.0
"Sheikh Mohammed Al-Gazoly, a scholar from Al-Azhar University, led the committee to Libya. The committee warned the Libyan leader about the result of his decision. They told him that if he did not repent and take back his statement, he would fall under the law of renegades and infidels. They said that according to Al-Qaeda Al-Faquhia he was denying many of the Islamic truths, which would force true Muslims to kill him. In light of this information, the leader of Libya repented and took back his statement. The committee went back from Libya to Cairo and announced Qaddafi's decision to repent to the whole Islamic world.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=892.0

Try going to the cradle of Muhammadanism and denegrate the Hadith and see if they won't cut your head off as a renegade too!

Ah but then the Quran tells us the same story. The Hadiths simply provide the details:

Qur'an 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

The same terror, slaughter, sex slave prisoners and thievery - AGAINST YAHWEH'S "PEOPLE OF THE SCRIPTURE BOOK" - by Muhammad and his band of Oas and Khazraj lazy cutthroat thieves.
It is the job of all true followers of Muhammad.

Quran Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

That verse of course lies regarding the same being binding in the Gospel. You could pretend that slaying non-muslims doesn't apply to you, but who do you think would win an argument between yourself, and a true fundamental follower of Muhammad, that holds a beheading knife in one hand and the Quran that supports his understanding in his other hand?

Like the guy who wrote this footnote in the Noble Quran: "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite." page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's Sahih Al-Bukhari

If you truthful...be concise...brief...Do Not give those nonsense links...

Those links are my websites and videos that I did so I don't have to keep writing and repeating. If you find any errors (not matters of opinion since you demonstrate you differ from Islamic scholars) I'll be happy to correct any error. The fact is that the massacre of the Banu Quraiza innocent farmers - who never struck a blow - is one of the proudest moments in Islamic history, in the eyes of Muhammad's true fundamental followers, in the cradle of Muhammad's religion. Here is one of Muhammad's true followers, a cleric, on Jews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rl0rZObP-c

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 11:48:51 AM »
These Books have been Adulterated and Changed..

If you truthful...be concise...brief...Do Not give those nonsense links...

If I was concise and brief, and included only one account, you would turn around and tell me that it is only one account and is inauthentic as you already accused, when I posted it the first time.
You won't get a lot of mileage out of taqiyyah in this forum. If the suras regarding Muhammad and his boy's rape of captives for example, are inauthentic, why are they repeated so many times? The following accounts are from Bukhari, that I don't have to tell you is one of the most highly regarded collection of Hadiths in Islam. In some Muslim's eyes THE most respected - even considered inspired - hadith collection. Some suggest second only to the Quran.

(1) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.  (Book #34, Hadith #432)
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Muhammad of course was in favor of their completing the sex act during the rape, to make more Muslim babies, as confirmed by the last account in this post.
In the tradition of Muhammad as are his true followers in Darfur:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/may/21.26.html
"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""
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(2) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."  (Book #46, Hadith #718)

(3) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."  (Book #59, Hadith #459)

(4) Narrated Jabir: We used to practice coitus interrupt us during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle .  (Book #62, Hadith #135)

(5) Narrated Jabir: We used to practice coitus interrupt us while the Quran was being revealed. Jabir added: We used to practice coitus interrupt us during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle while the Quran was being Revealed.  (Book #62, Hadith #136)

(6) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."  (Book #62, Hadith #137)

(7) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That while he was sitting with the Prophet a man from the Ansar came and said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?" Allah's Apostle said, "Do you do that? It is better for you not to do it, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created."  (Book #77, Hadith #600)

(8) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection." Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Sa'id saying that the Prophet said, 'No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it."  (Book #93, Hadith #506
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Indeed the sense we get from all of the Hadiths combined is there is no ambiguity, but together they paint a very complete and sordid picture, of the rape of captives by Muhammadans.

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2012, 01:17:14 PM »
It was Not a Threat...It was what i would do to a transgressor.....In My reach...Any prophet Insulted or Blasphemed about deserves death and hell

And do you feel personally charged with the duty of killing those that you consider to be a blasphemer? What if someone felt compelled in a similar way towards you? Do you not see how wrong it is to desire, let alone act on such desires, to kill others? As sinners we all deserve death and hell but God ever gracious gave us a guaranteed way to escape such a fate.

Jhn 3:16         For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Rom 10:9         That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 08:29:07 AM »
It was Not a Threat...It was what i would do to a transgressor.....In My reach...Any prophet Insulted or Blasphemed about deserves death and hell

And do you feel personally charged with the duty of killing those that you consider to be a blasphemer?

Muhammad's people have no choice if they want to continue to follow the father of lies - satan - through his prophet Muhammad. The truth always defends itself, automatically, but the only way to defend lies is to remove the truth whenever it exposes satan's lies. Whether killing Christians, or cutting our tongues out and cutting our hands off the way our friend would like to do, or the 1400 year Islamic tradition of killing Christian proselytes and Islamic "apostates" in Islamic countries that come to know the love of the one true God through a relationship with Jesus Christ, while banning bibles and Christian materials in 53 nations..... so far.
http://www.persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51
Our friend cannot point to a single characterization of Muhammad that I made, as being untrue.

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2012, 10:20:40 AM »
It is only those who hear (with sincere hearts) that accept faith; and Allah will raise these people dead of heart, then towards Him they will be herded.
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Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah of which ye are (yourselves) witnesses?

Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while ye have knowledge?


Surat Al-'A`rāf (The Heights) - سورة الأعراف


Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful.




This Is my Last Reply to You.  As i Know You are Deaf and Blind....


As for those whose fate is disbelief, whether you warn them or do not warn them - it is all one for them; they will not believe. Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and on their eyes is a covering; and for them is a terrible punishment.

And when Our verses are recited to him he haughtily turns away as if he did not hear them - as if there is deafness in his ears; so give him the glad tidings of a painful punishment.

Indeed the worst beasts in the sight of Allah are those (people) who are deaf, dumb - who do not have any sense.

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »
We get it. According to your Allah we are deaf, dumb and misguided creatures. I would remind you that Allah himself claims that he leads astray those whom he wills and none can alter his edict. I would wonder then what point there is in proselytizing in Islam. At any rate Yahweh says that we are all sinful, broken and in need of salvation. He offers a guarantee of that salvation for all that turn to Him through His Son Jesus Christ and his shed blood. I offer no threats or compulsion simply a chance to understand what salvation could mean for you.
Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 12:39:47 PM »
This Is my Last Reply to You. 

We understand you had to leave because the truth about Muhammadan Islam being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, is too terrible to contemplate.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

It will take a little time, but now that you may have received that first spark of cognitive dissonance, you can start down the road to recovery. Feel free to come back when you begin your genuine search for the truth. When you tire of prostrating yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca 5 times a day, and running back and forth between Al-Safa and Al-Marwah 7 times as the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did.
http://www.brotherpete.com/hajj_umrah.htm

I would encourage you to investigate the history of Mecca
http://www.historyofmecca.com
and the true origins of Muhammad's tradition and rituals
http://www.historyofmecca.com/origins_of_islam.htm
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?board=56.0
to get an idea of the hopelessness of what you have been indoctrinated to believe.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Again please listen to a few testimonies of some of your former brethren that have come to know the love of the one true God.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

As i Know You are Deaf and Blind....

Come on Ateef. In this very post you proved to yourself unequivocally that you suffer from fully intentional self-imposed blindness. Do you really think we don't know why you couldn't admit that Muhammad's "Allah" has a spirit JUST AS THE QURAN SAYS?
You know that even though Muhammad indicated in no uncertain terms that his "Allah" has a spirit, to admit to that you would be admitting to believing in two parts of the Godhead. God and His Spirit. You would be admitting that you believe in two parts of what some call the "trinity"!
But you didn't fool us, my friend, as we have been down this road before.

Here's a thread on the Spirit of God that may help you see a little better that includes a little on the term "Ruhullah".
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=174.0

It demonstrated once again how foolish it is to follow a single individual that not only revealed himself as one of the most black-hearted mass murderers that ever walked the earth, but one of the most ignorant as well, since he couldn't even ever keep his story straight, since he had no idea about what he was making up his nonsense about. He hadn't a clue about the Spirit of God because he was inspired by satan himself.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2012, 05:17:08 AM »
you write how many fake stories you want...nothing will change a believer...for morons like you it is easy to preach falsehood...

bloody bastards...risking others path to heaven and preparing for hell..

i do not think you have food like normal humans...but yes you eat shit....and will eat fire after death....

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2012, 08:25:51 AM »
you write how many fake stories you want...nothing will change a believer....

Believers are those of us who have followed Yahweh through two covenants, over 3500 years, as He revealed Himself through His 1600 year record to mankind. The "people of the book".

....for morons like you .......

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

...... it is easy to preach falsehood...

It's only false to you because Muhammad professed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm
Muhammad's alter-ego Satan is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Yahweh, just as Muhammad was the EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2748.0
Following Muhammad is antichrist, as opposed to those of us that are in Christ, and He in us. Your reality is inverted because you follow the father of lies through his prophet Muhammad, so things that are true you must believe to be false, and things that are good you must believe to be evil, just as you must believe things that are false to be true, and things that are evil to be good. Like prostrating yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, and praying in the vain repetitions of the heathen 5 times a day, let alone running back and forth between Safa and Marwah the way the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did. You believe those things to be of God, when in actually they are as much of being of Satan, as when the Quraish pagans and occult Sabians engaged in the same occult practices before Muhammad was ever born.
http://www.brotherpete.com/origins_of_islam.htm
http://www.brotherpete.com/hajj_umrah.htm

bloody bastards...risking others path to heaven and preparing for hell..

By following the sinless Messiah as He is revealed through the Gospel and Old Testament prophecy,...
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm
....while rejecting the STAND-ALONE 23 year 7th century record - the EXACT OPPOSITE - of an antichrist false prophet, who your own books reveal as an imperialistic, mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, terrorist, thief?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GziJfA6n4Ts
http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

i do not think you have food like normal humans...but yes you eat sh*t....and will eat fire after death....

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2012, 08:51:22 AM »
Sura 3.97 PICKTHAL: Wherein are plain memorials (of Allah's guidance); the place where Abraham stood up to pray; and whosoever entereth it is safe. And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind, for him who can find a way thither. As for him who disbelieveth, (let him know that) lo! Allah is Independent of (all) creatures.

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Re: Muslims pray like Jesus
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 08:28:18 AM »
Bukhari again not in my eyes....yet again i say ...bukhari is nothing for me you loser...

the things you are posting are from bukhari...
which is also adulterated

do you want me to put here some verses from the bible which have sexual and implicit content...if i wanted i could have done that also...posted some adult verses from the bible....Its a easy task for me.... but you know what i am not a fool like you....

I wont...

yes i will If you insist...and say the blame is on you...here...for me posting that adulterated content..


I am free of you and not like you....i did not insult any messenger....Using adulterated material...You loser