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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2010, 06:42:00 AM »

I am starting to think that Anna very well may also beleive that the "Gospel of Barnabus" is also a Nicean Council conspiracy and not the 15 century forgery it is. Most Muslims will swear balck and blue that Barnabus actually wrote it. because thats what they are told happened !!!

Did you know that not only is Mohammed mentioned by name within the foolishness of the Gospel of Barnabas, but that Mohammed is the Messiah, in that Gospel?!
Next time a Muslim brings it up, first ask him if he believes that Mohammed was the Messiah, and specifically not Jesus.
Indeed Jesus is even supposedly quoted as declaring that Mohammed is the Messiah!!! :D

'Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called?" {Jesus answered} "Muhammed is his blessed name" ' (ch. 97)[52]

Jesus confessed, and said the truth: "I am not the Messiah." (ch. 42:2)[53]
here's a thread on GoB http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=465.0

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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2010, 05:10:41 PM »

I know. It leaves me dumbfounded that innocent Muslims are taught that this Gospel is truth and was written in the 1st century AD but was rejected at the Council. It appears the history of this false Gospel had to also be MADE UP in a way that Muslims will swallow it.

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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2010, 05:46:39 PM »

I know. It leaves me dumbfounded that innocent Muslims are taught that this Gospel is truth and was written in the 1st century AD but was rejected at the Council. It appears the history of this false Gospel had to also be MADE UP in a way that Muslims will swallow it.
Did you visit the link? That may be a better place to chat about it
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=465.0

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Re: THE QURAN ON SCRIPTURE
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 11:58:19 AM »
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Re: THE QURAN ON SCRIPTURE
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 01:41:09 PM »

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Re: THE QURAN ON SCRIPTURE
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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2014, 08:40:15 AM »
Of the English Bible
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/#timeline

CAN YOU PIECE TOGETHER THE HISTORY OF THE BIBLE FOR THE BENEFIT EVERYONE<

1. Are the writings of the Akkadian Tablets the source of the Bible? Are the myths mixed with Prophesy?
2. Was the Bible rewritten after the Babylonian Occupation of Israel ?
3. What is the original language of the Bible (if any) since the reference to and language in the current form could be vastly misleading and ambiguous.
4.How Many versions were destroyed over time that required rewriting from the memory of individuals? how many are oral misinterpretations?
5. Why did the Romans see fit to destroy and wage war against anyone that disagreed with their version of the Gospels??
6. Who gave any of the translators the authority to translate the Bible into any other language?
7 What is the standard for interpretation of the Scripture is it each man for himself or every sect and division for himself?

My list of Questions goes on and on and on and on. I am searching far and wide for the definitive origin, the more I research it the more questions I have, no I am not confused, I am in search of the truth.

The only conclusion I came to was that the previous corruptions and the corrupted clergy that presented their own theories as truth won by either war or polarity.

The more arguments the Christians (sorry to use the widely accepted derogatory term) present the more they emphasize the need for God to send Muhammad to bring the true message to the world.

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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2014, 12:33:28 PM »
Of the English Bible
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/#timeline

CAN YOU PIECE TOGETHER THE HISTORY OF THE BIBLE FOR THE BENEFIT EVERYONE<

1. Are the writings of the Akkadian Tablets the source of the Bible? Are the myths mixed with Prophesy?

Not with Bible prophecy, or the prophecies wouldn't have been fulfilled. Like those of the crucifixion of Christ:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/psalms_22.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/isaiah_53.htm

2. Was the Bible rewritten after the Babylonian Occupation of Israel ?

No.
On Hebrew scribal methodology.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/bible_manuscript_errors_.htm

3. What is the original language of the Bible (if any) since the reference to and language in the current form could be vastly misleading and ambiguous.

False. The Holy scriptures were written over the span of about 1600 years, first in the languages of Hebrew with a little high Syriac (Aramaic) in the Old Testament, and Koine Greek of the first century New Testament era.
There are tools like Hebrew and Koine Greek to English interlinears, for those of us that don't speak those languages, to compare the English translation we use to. The KJV is widely considered the best English translation.

As compared to the Arabic of the Quran, which is a language that did not exist prior to the Christian era and did not have a written form prior to around the 300 AD. It remained obscure until it was spread across the Arabian peninsula by the power of the evil of the Muhammadan's swords.

The Quran you have today looks nothing like the oldest Quran, that was penned in old Arabic. About 1 out of every 5 verses in that Quran simply do not make sense, according to the expert.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2561.0

4.How Many versions were destroyed over time that required rewriting from the memory of individuals?

None. See prior link on Hebrew scribal methodology.
Perhaps you are confusing the Holy Scriptures with Bakr and Uthman's multiple burnings of the Quran.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/textual_history_of_the_koran.htm

how many are oral misinterpretations?
5. Why did the Romans see fit to destroy and wage war against anyone that disagreed with their version of the Gospels??

They didn't. The Romans were still pagans while the scriptures were being translated into every popular language, copied thousands of times, and were being transmitted and read all over the whole known world. We have 5300 partial or complete manuscripts penned prior to 300 AD that attest to that.

6. Who gave any of the translators the authority to translate the Bible into any other language?

What kind of a question is that? Who gave the translators the authority to translate the Quran into languages other than Arabic (which it recently struck me could well be considered Satan's language since it spread by the power of Islam's swords)?
Who gave the authority to translate the Quran from old Arabic of the 7th century to the modern Arabic of today? Who gave the authority to change the Quran so that it made a little more sense than the old manuscript?
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=4002.0

7 What is the standard for interpretation of the Scripture is it each man for himself or every sect and division for himself?

Some of the figurative language of apocalyptic dreams and visions in prophecy is widely open to interpretation.
Regarding Christian CORE doctrine, there has not been a single Christian throughout the last nearly 2,000 years, that denied the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Christ - the whole subject of the Gospel - or denied that Jesus is the Son of God.
While atheists and Muslims that follow the father of lies, that is Satan, deny it.

My list of Questions goes on and on and on and on.

Your list of ignorant questions stops wasting our time right here and now, and you are going to be answering all the questions you have been asked by forum members, that you have ignored.

Additionally since the whole reason you seek to blaspheme the one true God and His record, because you follow the false prophet Muhammad alone, there will be no such further discussion until you present EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca ever existed prior to the 4th century AD.
Then maybe we can help you overcome the blasphemy you spew about Abraham, Hagar or Ishmael, who were never within a thousand KM of where Mecca was eventually settled in the 4th century AD. Perhaps we can even help you overcome praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do" toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol.


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Re: TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE BIBLE
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2014, 02:16:09 AM »
I am searching far and wide for the definitive origin,........

If this isn't a lie, we have a whole forum section dedicated to the evidence of the origins of the Judeo-Christian faith.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?board=68.0

If you are genuinely searching for origins, the next thing you are going to have to do is compare that history, archaeology and geography of Jerusalem and Israel, with the origin of Mecca in the 4th century AD.....
http://www.historyofmecca.com/
.....and the origins of the anti-religion of Muhammadanism.
http://www.brotherpete.com/origins_of_islam.htm

........ the more I research it the more questions I have, no I am not confused, I am in search of the truth.

When did you decide to make the change to search for the truth?
Let's begin with Psalms 22 and the prophecy of Jesus' crucifixion:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/psalms_22.htm

Next we will investigate the history of Mecca.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

The only conclusion I came to was that the previous corruptions and the corrupted clergy that presented their own theories as truth won by either war or polarity.

Well not that you claim you are seeking the truth, we can help you overcome the blizzard of atheist lies and Muhammadan deception that brought you to that conclusion.
Your false conclusions are because you have never availed yourself of the information we have presented, and keep ignoring our questions. I'll help you from here on out and we will list the questions we would like you to address first. I'll depend on you stopping your flailing away and tilting against the truth.

You see, you post the drivel of Godless agnostics and such in here, because it appeals to you, since they are your fellow antichrists. You have been searching only one side in efforts to support your Muhammadan DISbelief.
According to the scriptures you are a liar who denies the Son of God and the record that God gave us of Him:

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

The more arguments the Christians (sorry to use the widely accepted derogatory term) .........

No problem Muj, Godless people seized by Satan have considered it a derogatory term ever since the first century, when it was first applied to those who believed that Jesus is the Christ.

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

....... present the more they emphasize the need for God to send Muhammad to bring the true message to the world.

Then before we do anything else, we are going to review all of the evidence you have that demonstrates that Mecca existed prior to the 4th century AD, to see how you support the suggestion that the world needed a mass murdering, child doing, female prisoner abusing, terrorist thief. Why the world needs to pray toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol. Why the world would need to practice Ramadan as the Harranian Sabian moon god worshipers did.