Author Topic: The 19th century didn't go so well for the church  (Read 351 times)


  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 3869
    • View Profile
    • False Prophet Muhammad
The 19th century didn't go so well for the church
« on: May 31, 2017, 09:41:29 AM »
Along with popularization of the preterist approach to Bible prophecy.......
The 19th century brought us

Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science
Joseph Smith - LDS Mormon
Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witness
William Miller - The Millerites
Ellen White - SDA Seventh Day Adventists
Edward Irving - Irvingites
John Nelson Darby - dispensationalism futurism Borrowed from Irving and bequeathed to C.I. Scofield of the Scofield annotated Bible. (Dr. Harry Ironside on futurism)
Dr. John Thomas - Christadelphians
Georg W. F. Hegel - Idealism school of eschatology (adopted by Karl Marx) (PDF)
Westcott and Hort - wrote corrupt 19th century minority Greek text that is the basis of the majority of modern bible versions.
Charles Parham  United Oneness Pentecostal Churcha few individuals 19th and 20th century
Messianic Judaism - 19th-20th centuries and again in the 1960s
Pope Pius IX - 1854 dogma of the "immaculate conception"
The 19th century also brought us:
Madame Blavatsky - Theosophical Society - satanist acquaintence of Westcott and Hort

Not restricted to the 19th century the ecclesia also suffered:
Constantine - Roman Catholicism - 3rd-4th century, 13th century dogma of auricular confession, 1950 dogma of the "assumption of Mary", RCC style doctrine of apostolic succession, transubstantiation, infallibility of papal decree, and on and on.

Ribera - futurist doctrine creator and seed for Darby's doctrine 16th century
Alcazar - preterist doctrine 17th century
Jean de Labadie - millennial reign 17th century
Manuel de Lacunza - middle man between Ribera and Darby 18th century

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].


  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 3869
    • View Profile
    • False Prophet Muhammad
Re: The 19th century didn't go so well for the church
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2017, 10:16:02 AM »
Besides Jesuit Luis Alcazar - the actual father of modern preterism through his counter-reformation effort - one of the fathers of modern preterism may be Samuel Lee who resurrected Eusebius' writings. If not the father of modern preterism, he's certainly at least a hero of one preterist website:

"EVER since his translation of Eusebius's 'Theophania,' my father's mind had been more or less occupied on the subject of Prophecy, and he became convinced that the views which he entertained, known as the Preterist, were those held by the early Church. The subject was one of absorbing interest to him during the few last years of his life, and as a child I can remember the animated conversations between him and my mother on Prophecy in their walks about our beautiful garden, or in the leisure of meal times, she holding the more general and popular opinions of the restoration of the Jews to their own land, etc. "

Which I suppose his foray into preterism was excusable for someone that lived from the 18th to mid-19th centuries, when the restoration of Jews to their/our land was still in its infancy. However the debate should certainly be over today, in the light of the fulfilled prophecies of Jews being restored to power in Israel and then Jerusalem, the fulfillment of which prophecies is even confirmed mathematically, through hindsight:

Christians on Zionism centuries before the related prophecies ever began to be fulfilled: