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Text version of video "Anti-Zionism & Anti-Zionists " at this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowW0bUGPy8

I don’t believe it a mere coincidence that the fruit of the anti-Zionist tree - who are advancing the destruction of the only democracy in the Middle East that shares our western values, where Muslims enjoy more freedom than Muslims do in any Islam controlled country on earth - include Nazis, skinheads, white supremacists, anti-Semites of all stripes, a near unanimity of Muslims from around the world, Louis Farrakan and the "Nation of Islam", and secular groups like communist Soviets, the United Nations, George Soros and his Center for American Progress, who are even joined by some self-described Christians that fruit the anti-Zionist tree like David Duke and the KKK, Arnold Murray and his Serpent Seed cult, Jeremiah Wright, Ted Pike and the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. and Methodist Church, in support of the so-called "Palestinians", Hamas and Hezbollah toward advancing the 1400 year goal of the Islamic conquest of all the kingdoms of the world, and subjugation of all people in the world to denying the Son of God and rejecting His shed blood, as articles of their faith in Muhammad. The conquest of Israel and goal of subjugation of Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs, being just another front in the Islamic Jihad conquest of the world in continuation of the 1400 year goal of Islamic Jihad.

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Whose side will God find you on if you should die today?

Israel being just a stepping stone, just as it was during the Islamic conquest of nearly the whole known world during the First Islamic Jihad, until being stopped in France and Austria.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2983.0

Zechariah 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

1-24 after making the video http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2973.0 I cruised YouTube for zioniist and anti-zionist videos. Search - christian zionism - and - protocols of zion - for a couple example searches. I quickly realized that I can't imagine anything that illustrates the hearts of the two sides of this issue than channel comments on these videos.

As I read the foul language, animus and rage of anti-Zionists, some of whom even consider themselves to be "Christian", it brought the following verse to mind:
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Christian

Catholic Church anti-Zionism

Many modern Popes have been openly critical of Zionism, including Pius X, Benedict XV and Pius XII.[37] Cardinal Rafael Merry del Val reportedly explained the Church's policy of non possumus to Theodore Herzl and his emerging movement of Zionism, saying that as long as the Jews deny the divinity of Christ, the Church certainly could not make a declaration in their favor.[38] The Holy See did not establish relations with Israel until 1993 because of these issues.

Positions of the World Council of Churches

The World Council of Churches has been described by some[who?] as taking anti-Zionist positions in connection with its criticisms of Israeli policy. They believe the council has focused disproportionately on activities and publications criticizing Israel in comparison with other human rights issues[who?].[39] The council members have been characterized by Israel's former Justice minister Amnon Rubinstein as anti-Zionist, saying "they just hate Israel." [40]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Secular_Arab

"In contrast, a poll of 507 Arab-Israelis conducted by the Israeli Democracy Institute in 2007 found that 75 percent profess support for Israel's status as a Jewish and democratic state which guarantees equal rights for minorities. Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general was 88 percent.[31]"
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Muslim anti-Zionism considers the State of Israel an intrusion into what many Muslims consider to be Dar al-Islam, a domain rightfully, and permanently, ruled only by Muslims.[32][33][34]

Palestinian and other Muslim groups, as well as the government of Iran (since the 1979 Islamic Revolution), insist that the State of Israel is illegitimate and refuse to refer to it as "Israel", instead using the locution "the Zionist entity" (see Iran-Israel relations). Maps of the Middle-East frequently do not show Israel. In an interview with Time Magazine in December 2006, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said "Everyone knows that the Zionist regime is a tool in the hands of the United States and British governments".[35]

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammed Amin al Husseini opposed the Jewish immigration to Palestine before the creation of the State of Israel, and in several documented cases expressed his hostility to Jews and Zionism.[36]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini

Husseini of course was this guy.


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Peter

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Re: Anti-Zionism
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 02:04:09 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinvestment_from_Israel#Churches

Disinvestment from Israel

Churches
Presbyterian Church (USA)
Main article: Current controversies regarding the Presbyterian Church (USA)

In July 2004, the 2.4-million-member Presbyterian Church (USA), voted 431 to 62 in July to "initiate a process of phased selective divestment in multinational corporations operating in Israel.".[6] The Church manages a set of investment funds totaling approximately $7 billion USD.[6]

According to the Church's highest elected official, Rev. Clifton Kirkpatrick, there is no plan for a "blanket divestment" from Israeli companies, but instead the Church will "target businesses that it believes bear particular responsibility for the suffering of Palestinians and will give them a chance to change their behavior before selling their shares."[6] Church officials, according to the Washington Post,[6] mentioned Caterpillar Inc. as a possible target of the selective divestment campaign because the company "manufactures bulldozers used by Israel to demolish Palestinian homes that are built without permits or belong to families of suicide bombers."

There was significant opposition in the American Jewish community to the Church's decision. The Washington Post reported in September 2004 that "Jewish-Presbyterian relations have been in turmoil" and that "the heads of several major U.S. Jewish organizations condemned the Presbyterian Church's decision to begin selective divestiture in companies operating in Israel."[6] The executive vice president of the Central Conference of American Rabbis, Rabbi Paul Menitoff, said the resolution was "lopsided" and that it unfairly blamed only one side in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

In response to the criticism, Church official Kirkpatrick said that the Church would also "pull its money out of any companies that are complicit in supporting terrorism."[6]

On June 29, 2006, the Presbyterian Church (USA) General Assembly by a vote of 483-28 adopted a balanced resolution that replaced language adopted in 2004 mandating a process of divestment focused on Israel and endorsed instead a corporate engagement process.[7] Instead of using the word "divestment", the resolution calls for the Church to invest only in companies who are involved in "peaceful pursuits" in Israel and Palestinian territories.[8]
[edit] World Council of Churches

In February 2005, the Geneva-based World Council of Churches followed suit.[9][10] The resolution passed by WCC's 150-member Central Committee commended the selective divestment resolution passed by the Presbyterian Church (USA) saying that the previous resolution "in both method and manner, uses criteria rooted in faith and calls members to do the things that make for peace." The WCC planned to focus "on companies that assist the Israeli government in demolishing Palestinian homes, constructing settlements, and erecting a controversial 'dividing wall' within the Palestinian territories."[10]

"The unexpected resolution", according to a BeliefNet report,[10] "caught many American Jewish groups off guard and confirmed fears among some that the Presbyterians opened a Pandora's box last summer that now has the tacit approval of global Protestant and Orthodox leaders. Rabbi Gary Bretton-Granatoor, interfaith director for the Anti-Defamation League, dismissed the WCC as 'irrelevant' but was nonetheless concerned that the divestment campaign has taken on a life of its own."
[edit] United Church of Christ

The United Church of Christ also followed suit,[11] endorsing a range of economic leverages that included divestment, but church leaders did not commit their pension or foundation assets to a divestment plan.[12]
[edit] New England Conference of the United Methodist Church

The New England Conference of the United Methodist Church, at its Annual Conference session held June 8–11, 2005, voted to urge the divesting of funds from companies that support the Israeli occupation of Palestinian Territories.[13] The resolution stated:

    "Whereas the United Methodist Church should not profit from the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian land or the destruction of Palestinian homes, orchards, and lives,"
    "Whereas we are committed to ensuring that our denomination’s money is used in a manner consistent with our beliefs, with international law, and with Christ’s teaching."

[edit] Others

Other mainline churches have debated the subject of divestment. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America rejected a pro-divestment resolution during the summer of 2005.[citation needed] The Episcopal Church USA ruled out the possibility of an Israel divestment later that year, and the United Methodist Church has also avoided divestment.[citation needed]

Universities

Many Muslim Student Union organizations sponsor a "Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction Campaign" on campus mostly targeting Israel, often in cooperation with other progressive campus groups.[14][15]

On March 17, 2010 a UC Berkeley Student Senate resolution asked that the university divest itself of companies that conduct business with Israel, especially targeting General Electric and United Technologies which supplies arms and technology to Israel, but it was vetoed on March 24 by the Student Body President who called it "a symbolic attack on a specific community", with the final decision being to not divest was established.[16]
[edit] United Kingdom

The Church of England synod has voted for disinvestment from Israel, which was criticised by George Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury as "inappropriate, offensive and highly damaging".[17]

Britain's National Union of Journalists called for boycott April 14, 2007. By a 66-54 vote, the annual delegate's meeting of Britain's largest trade union for journalists called for "a boycott of Israeli goods similar to those boycotts in the struggles against apartheid South Africa led by trade unions, and [for] the [Trades Union Congress] to demand sanctions be imposed on Israel by the British government."[18]
[edit] Ireland

At its biennial delegate conference held in May 2008, IMPACT (the Irish Municipal, Public and Civil Trade Union), Ireland's largest public sector and services trade union, passed two resolutions criticising Israeli suppression of the Palestinians and endorsing a boycott of Israeli goods and services. The motions also supported divestment from those corporations engaged in or profiting from the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.[19]
[edit] Canada
See also: CUPE Ontario and disinvestment from Israel
[edit] 2006

The Toronto assembly of the United Church of Canada supports CUPE's boycott. In 2003, the Toronto assembly voted to boycott goods produced by Jewish settlements in the occupied territories.[20] The national umbrella UCC absolved itself of a boycott by instead choosing to support pro-peace investment.[21]

On May 27, 2006, the Ontario section of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (which represents more than 200,000 workers) approved a resolution to "support the international campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel until that state recognizes the Palestinian right to self-determination" and to protest the Israeli West Bank barrier.[22][23][24]

Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League labelled CUPE's action as "deplorable and offensive."[25] The Ontario regional director of the Canadian Jewish Congress, Steven Schulman, characterized the vote as "outrageous." "For a respected labour union to engage in such a vote, which is completely one-sided and based on mistruths, is shocking," he said.[26]

The Congress of South African Trade Unions published a letter expressing their support for the CUPE boycott of Israel.[27]
[edit] 2009

In January 2009, CUPE's Ontario University Workers Coordinating Committee announced plans to introudce Resolution 50 that would ban Israeli academics from speaking, teaching or researching at Ontario universities. Sid Ryan, president of CUPE Ontario, stated that "Israeli academics should not be on our campuses unless they explicitly condemn the university bombing and the assault on Gaza in general." Ryan stated that the resolution was a reasonable response to Israel's attack on the Islamic University, which he likened to the torching of books by Nazis during the Second World War.[28][29]

Janice Folk-Dawson, chairwoman of the university workers committee, stated that resolution will protect the quality of education by preventing Israeli academics from professing biased views. She also stated that "International pressure on Israel must increase to stop the massacre that is going on daily. We are proud to add CUPE voices to others from around the world saying enough is enough" and that support for the resolution "is coming from the rank-and-file members, not just the leadership." Despite the expected backlash, Folk-Dawson stated that "We believe we are doing the right thing."[28]

The resolution was immediately criticized by the Leo Rudner of the Canadian Jewish Congress, who stated "I think it's ironic individuals who speak about freedom of speech jump to the opportunity to take that freedom away from other individuals." Emanuel Adler, chairman of Israeli Studies at the University of Toronto, also criticized the resolution, stating that "the conflict and the violence should not be brought inside the university."[28] Jonathan Kay, a columnist for the National Post, sharply criticized the resolution, stating that "Mr. Ryan and his fellow CUPE leaders care about demonizing only one country: the Jewish state."[30]

Michael Neumann, a philosophy professor at Trent University in Peterborough, Ontario expressed support for the boycott. Neumann stated that "If people believe these are extreme circumstances and it will do some good, then I think it's reasonable and perhaps justified." He argued that a boycott is not anti-semitic, stating that "It targets Israeli, not Jewish, professors." He further stated that "People may always have bad motives underlying good motives. And it's not absolutely impossible that some of these people have anti-Semitic feelings deep down, but do I think that plays a large part? No, I certainly do not."[31]

Costanza Musu, an Associate Professor at the University of Ottawa, called the boycott "wrong and maladroit in every possible way" and stated that "It is a very sad moment when someone in academia starts considering the boycott of colleagues as a valid an honourable instrument of political struggle."[32]

The resolution will be put to vote at the committee's annual conference in February. If it passes, it will be on the agenda at CUPE Ontario's conference in May.[28] However, some observers have questioned what practical effect the resolution could have since CUPE's 200,000 workers province-wide include some campus staff but almost no full-time faculty.[31]

On 14 January 2009 the University of Ottawa Centre for International Policy Studies, directed by Professor Roland Paris, published the following 'Statement on Freedom of Speech': "Freedom of speech is a core value of Canadian society, especially within its universities where the expression and debate of different positions is crucial to learning. As an academic centre that promotes research and dialogue on international policy, CIPS opposes the Canadian Union of Public Employees' contemplated ban on Israeli academics from speaking, teaching or research work at Ontario universities. CIPS will not participate in such a boycott or any other attempt to silence academics, including those expressing controversial or unpopular opinions. CIPS will continue to invite academics of any nationality to participate in scholarly activities and public speaking events in Ottawa." [33]
[edit] Palestinian territories

On July 9, 2005, 171 Palestinian non-governmental organizations put out a call for an international economic campaign against Israel which has come to be referred to as Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) after the resolution's call "… for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel Until it Complies with International Law and Universal Principles of Human Rights." [34] The three stated goals of the campaign are[34]:

    An end to Israel's "occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall;"
    Israeli recognition of the "fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality;" and,
    Israeli respect, protection, and promotion of "the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194."

Attempts to create a similar movement focusing on divestment from Israel, such as the Palestine Solidarity Committee’s “Don’t Pay for Occupation” campaign,[35] failed to raise similar support, largely because (1) divestment was only one part of these program agendas which also focused on US foreign aid to Israel (as one activist put it “Although the campaign achieved many political aims, it failed to present a strategy of how one should not pay for occupation.”);[36] and (2) the notion that Israel was the natural successor to Apartheid South Africa as the next target for divestment was rejected not just by most American Jews and Jewish organizations, but also by human rights groups who had played a major role in the fight against Apartheid.[37]

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Re: Anti-Zionism
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 02:12:27 PM »

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Re: Anti-Zionism
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 06:58:54 AM »
UC Irvine Protest: Black Student Union Joins Muslim Student Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9sw14jwac

This is the "free speech" they are defending.
Muslim students on UC campus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w96UR79TBw

There was no need for interruption since there was a Q&A session planned for immediately after his speech.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 12:46:53 PM »

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Re: Anti-Zionism
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 07:21:45 AM »
http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=3266&TTL=Anti
Over recent years, leaders of major Protestant denominations have been conducting vigorous educational campaigns directed at discrediting Christian Zionism as "heresy." These campaigns are paid for out of general revenues of the various denominations and usually take the form of weekend study sessions directed at discovering solidarity with the "Christian people of Palestine." Their principal speakers are usually bishops representing the main denominations in the Holy Land (Anglican, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, etc.) - all of whom are Palestinian Arabs. No place is ever permitted on such programs for pro-Israel response. All of the study materials and recommended readings are derived from anti-Israel sources, disseminated by the publication houses owned by the particular denominations. 

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Re: Anti-Zionism
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 06:16:32 AM »
text version of video (with video link)
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3072.0

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Ted & Alynn Pike
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 12:17:29 PM »
I sent Ted Pike an inquisitive email once, to try to help him conclude on his own, what he was doing. He ignored the email and also ignored my later requests to stop spamming my email box. I had no idea what his life had been like until I saw a hint of this article and then Yahooed my way into the original piece.

I wonder if Ted Pike ever stopped his anti-Israel diatribe long enough to wonder just why it is he is in the company of Nazis, skinheads, Muslims, Soviets, the KKK and David Duke, and anti-semites of all stripes - and demons.
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/tedpikewifediedmartyr.html

Perhaps it also provides a good warning to others that would "study the Talmud" that Jews don't even consider to be inspired.

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Re: Anti-Zionism & Anti-Zionists
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2012, 10:02:06 AM »
It is pretty convicting for anti-Zionist Christians to have to come to terms regarding their fellow-fruit in the anti-Zionist tree. In one forum a member (who had been railing against Jews in general - re. banking etc. - and of course as a monolithic group) tried to hedge the truth by suggesting he wasn't anti-Zionist, but rather non pro Zionist! I replied

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So don't try to hedge the fact that you are anti-Zionist, but man-up to your fellow fruit in the anti-Zionist tree!

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That would be a misrepresentation. As stated before, to be non pro zionist does not equate with being anti-zionists. They can do whatever they want. I'm not party to, responsible or accountable for their [or your] actions and beliefs.

There are only two sides my friend. That you believe the stunning reality of the restoration of Jews to their land is "void of truth" is anti-Zionist. Being "void of truth" would also necessarily indicate you believe it is of Satan the father of lies. Your suggestion that it is "void of truth" doesn't express indifference, or that you don't have an opinion, but it means that you yourself recognize there are only two sides, with God on one side and Satan on the other. It's easy to understand why you wish to distance yourself from your fellow fruit in the non pro Zionist tree, but your contortions have you amusingly, effectively suggesting you are pro-God but you are not anti-Satan. However your term may be a more effective way of describing the other side of this issue.
But as you and I agree there are only two sides to this issue - truth and "void of truth".

That would be God VS Satan

On one tree are pro-zionists, that support the Jews sovereign control over Israel and Jerusalem, that includes the majority of Israeli non-Muslim Arabs, Israeli Jews and Israeli Christians, the vast majorities of whom were born there. Supporting the Jews in their struggle to simply be left alone to live in peace, while continuing to protect the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination of all Israeli citizens are freedom loving people from around the world, including millions of evangelical Christians that recognize the subject of this thread, the parable of the fig tree, as having prophesied the - now stunning reality - of the restoration of Jews to their land.

On the other tree are non pro zionists that includes the vast majority of Israeli Muslims and at least one minor cult of Israeli Jews, joined by non-Israelis that sit back in easy-boy chairs in the west, who themselves would never tolerate having bomb carrying rockets randomly dropped in their neighborhoods (and as easily on their schools), for two days, let alone two years, without expecting their government do something about it. These non pro zionists include Nazis, skinheads, Louis Farrakan and the Nation of Islam, white supremacists, Soviets, George Soros and his Center for American Progress, and anti-Semites of all stripes.

Again, we agree there are only two sides. Truth, and as you put it "void of truth".

Non pro zionists that profess themselves to be Christians include Arnold Murray and his Serpent Seed cult, David Duke and the KKK, the Presbyterian church leaders previously mentioned that were duped by Hezbollah, several Popes, and the World Council of Churches. Since many church groups are as reluctant as you, to publicly identify with anti-zionism for obvious reasons, another way we can recognize churches that don't recognize the parable of the fig tree is a prophecy of the restoration of Jews to their land, is to see who considered or were compelled to vote on, "divestment" of Israeli assets. These include the United Church of Christ (partial-preterist), United Methodist Church, The Church of England, The Toronto assembly of the United Church of Canada, and once again, the World Council of Churches and the Presbyterian Church (USA) (which for the most-part holds partial-preterist eschatology. And Romans 11 wouldn't seem to be the only chapter of Romans they perhaps don't understand, as witnessed by their ordination of homosexuals). In addition, the ECUSA's suggestion of "positive investment" (perhaps they call themselves "non pro zionists" too!), which, since the unproductive so-called "Palestinians" produce little more than murder, mayhem and misery which leaves little to "invest" in, perhaps ECUSA "positive investment" is funding Islamic terrorism through ignorance as done by so many that have been duped.

"Finally, a Palestinian 'Charity' Tells The Truth" By Debbie Schlussel
"A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of Hamas yesterday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts an Israeli soldier."

Not surprisingly the ECUSA ordained a homosexual as bishop, which has crashed and burned their denomination.

Divestment of Israeli assets is also championed by  U.S. liberal academics, and the "Palestinian"  NGO "Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions", preceded by The Arab League boycott of Israel, which started in 1921 and was formalized in 1945.

There are only two trees described above. Pro zionists and non pro zionists.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

You see my friend, there is little point in our trading proof-texted verses, from our understandings through two entirely different contexts, when we can first begin by so easily judging by the fruit. No surprise that the non pro zionist churches listed are also virtually devoid of Jews that have come to Christ, while at least pro-zionist churches, continue to be well populated with them.


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In the Beginning there was a Talking Snake, an "Elton John" aka a Fruit and Adam & Eve Goldstein and between the 4 of them, they F%$ked up this world!

The rest is filler!

A 1 verse commentary on Genesis by Pip Power.

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It is instructive to note the content of pip's post, and also the title of the PDF in his signature (though I wouldn't advise clicking on the link as it may contain malicious code).
Typical of the hatred and anti-Semitism in the hearts of those that fruit the anti-Zionist tree.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2795.0

Pip, since your post had absolutely nothing to do with "Christians and Jews pre-19th century....." which is the topic you posted it under, I am going to split it off and merge it with the thread on anti-Zionism, which it had everything to do with, as have your subsequent emails to us.

In the Beginning there was a Talking Snake, an "Elton John" aka a Fruit and Adam & Eve Goldstein and between the 4 of them, they F%$ked up this world!

The rest is filler!

A 1 verse commentary on Genesis by Pip Power.

This is not a forum for children, nor adults who have failed to mature properly. Please remove your signature from your profile (please see forum decorum regarding the Talmud).

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Pip wallowing in the Talmud, in conjunction with his own brand of blasphemous profanity, while Jews don't even consider it inspired. Like the Nazis and skinheads that fruit the anti-Zionist tree. Consider what happened to Ted Pike, a self-proclaimed Christian fan of the Talmud:
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3109.0

Yet when we look at Wikipedia on Jesus in the Talmud we find it is more a matter of the eyes of the beholder, and efforts to demonize Jews, continuing the 2500 years of persecuting them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

And any Jews that would see it the way the anti-Semites see it are described perhaps alluded to in the Gospel here:

1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Can there be any question as to just who is ruling over pip's life?

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Re: Anti-Zionism & Anti-Zionists
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 07:22:22 AM »
Bennett to Sky News: Don't Sit in London and Call Us Apartheid

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186843#.VFNumhaK2_J

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Re: Anti-Zionism & Anti-Zionists
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2014, 05:53:37 PM »
Bennett to Sky News: Don't Sit in London and Call Us Apartheid

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186843#.VFNumhaK2_J

Awesome response.... and the "world", hypocritically, continues to say nothing about Saudi Arabia.  Love it!