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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TDNOK047BLHTR8EL3

This thread is geared toward Muslims and atheists that are combative toward Christianity. Because of their fixation on rejecting the Gospel, and aversion to the love of God as expressed therein, Muslims and atheists run and hide from the scriptures through all manner of self-deception, rather than to simply and prayerfully, read and consider them for themselves.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

Sadly, with precious few ever asking God for understanding:
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.php

Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Some argue against the God of the scriptures, even as they remain in self-admitted, self-imposed, abject ignorance to the Bible, its related history, confirming archaeology and the miracle of fulfilled Bible prophecy in mathematical precision.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm
That is, when they aren't otherwise busy seeking out only that material, that promises to reinforce their self-indoctrination into pure BLIND FAITH in DISbelief. One has to wonder how many other things they are so firmly decided about, and committed to, while insisting on self-imposed abject ignorance to the subject. Not surprisingly, Muslims and atheists deceive themselves and attempt to deceive others, by parroting lies that are so transparent that many are aware they are lies even while they are communicating them. According to the Bible, the father of lies, is Satan.

The famous Greek sophist styled Islamic entertainer, and dissimulating deceiver Ahmed Deedat, provides an excellent example. Deedat knew, like most atheists and Muslims in this forum, that Christians are called to love our neighbors as ourselves. Indeed it is one of our two greatest commandments.

Mark 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

We are even called to love our enemies:

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Would the world really be such a bad place, if everybody believed we are going to be held accountable by our Creator, as to how we uphold the same?

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

If those verses went hard on your heart, did you stop to wonder why?

Nobody is born Christian, nor does a person become a Christian because some priest sprinkled water on one's head as an infant, or by a person simply proclaiming they are Christian. In order for a person to be a Christian they must be born again and given a new heart and spirit:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Yet Ahmed Deedat, along with no shortage of atheists in this forum that share the same spirit that influenced him, would not hesitate to join Deedat in saying: ".....you know Hitler who was he, Christian, Mussolini who was he, Christian....."

How did they come up with that? Perhaps no method of self-deception for those filled with the spirit of the father of lies, is more common than their judging the God of the scriptures according to the behavior of men, rather than judging the behavior of men according to what God expects of mankind as revealed through the scriptures.

They judge the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the UNChristian and even conspicuously black-hearted behavior of individuals and groups, that they vainly WISH were examples of Christian behavior, as a means of laundering their own sinfulness. This even as they themselves know, that hateful and murderous behavior of men that masqueraded as being of God - or deceived themselves into believing they were - is the opposite of that commanded through the Gospel. Thus these Muslims and atheists voluntarily render themselves as willing tools, of the enemy, of Jesus Christ.

Yet to a sane person with normal, unimpaired, cognitive function, it would otherwise be obvious that a rational approach would be to instead measure the behavior of men that proclaim themselves to be Christian, according to the Bible and the example of the behavior of Jesus Christ Himself that is to guide us. The Gospel commands Christians to love our neighbors as ourselves, while at the same time THE false prophet Muhammad's Quran for example, "binds" Muhammad's followers to "fight and slay" non-Muslims in the "cause" of "Allah".
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_love_of_god.htm

Such self-deceived atheists are so filled with the spirit of the father of lies, that even after pointing out quotes from Hitler himself - some of which they wouldn't hesitate to parrot themselves - they will continue to insist that Hitler was a Christian without hesitation, even though it is the atheists themselves that are on the same script! This is the result of sharing the spirit that drove Hitler.

(Dec. 13th, 1941) “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless…”

(Oct. 19th, 1941) “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.”

(from July 11th – 12th, 1941) “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity….[an] invention of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.”

(Feb. 27, 1942) “…but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity…my regret will have been that I couldn't behold its demise.”

Hitler was obviously a chameleon, who presented himself as whatever he needed to be, to whoever he needed to influence, to accomplish his goal of genocide of Jews. Hitler was of the same spirit that cause THE false prophet Muhammad to also engage in genocide of Jews. (following link "Mein Kamf" from Craig Winn's Prophet of Doom)
http://web.archive.org/web/20131205161517/http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_16_Mein_Kampf.Islam

So if these poor deluded atheists and Muslims are so easily deceived by Satan into believing Hitler was a Christian in this day and age - even with the benefit of the history of WW2 and what we know about Hitler's behavior compared to the Gospel - do we really have to wonder as to whether they wouldn't have been first in line to follow Hitler by being duped by his lies, back at a time when doing so would have conformed them to a substantial crowd?! If atheism isn't a religion, how is it so many hold what is effectively a doctrine, to lie about Hitler being a Christian?

Indeed the atheists in this forum wish to believe themselves to be of a different spiritual condition than Hitler, even as every one that I have chatted with, has effectively said the same as this quote of Hitler repeatedly, ad nauseum:

(Dec. 13th, 1941) “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless…”

One has to wonder if these folks have had the capacity to be honest with themselves taken away from them, and given over at least partially, to a reprobate mind. They lie even as they have actually deceived themselves into believing, and even proclaim, how wonderful the world would be if there were more Godless people in it. This even with the history of Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, as shining examples of the real life fulfillment of their desires.

It never seems to occur to them, that even as they can be found lying in this forum just as casually as they would say "hello", their fellow Godless peers that would be their masters, would just as casually pick up swords to subjugate or slay them. This is because there is ultimately no disincentive to lie, steal or murder, when one has deceived oneself into believing that one is only accountable to oneself, for one's behavior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcjzesMBbw

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Re: Hitler's Dupes
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2015, 08:33:06 AM »
The next most common lie that Muslims and atheists deceive themselves with, is to pretend that the torture, murder, mayhem and misery perpetrated by the Roman Church throughout a considerable period of the Christian era, represents Christian behavior. This even as the Muslims and atheists know Christians are commanded to love our neighbor as ourselves. Indeed simply hating someone would have us judged as a murderer:

1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

The conspicuously black-hearted behavior of some Roman Church clergy, and those they kept in ignorance to the Gospel that, as a result, blindly did whatever they instructed them to do, to this day presents one of the greatest stumbling blocks that prevents folks from seeking the truth of the Gospel. Without having read the Gospel, they cannot discern the difference between the UNChristian behavior of men that posed as Christians, and a violent religion like Islam for example that commands that behavior.
Thus, as a result of the UNChristian behavior and false dogmas of the Roman Church, no shortage of Christians believe it to be the "great whore" referenced in the book of Revelation. I personally believe it to be just a part of a broader subject, which is all of the evil men and false doctrines that have driven men to hatred and violence, while masquerading as followers of God.

The following video on the inquisitions is from the ministry of former Roman Catholic Priest Richard Bennett. You can skip past the intro music (2:40 minute mark), to get to the narrative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFniD2cDAlo

Not surprisingly, when Muslims and atheists report on Roman Church murder, I've yet to find one that is honest enough to include the fact that the Roman Church torture, and murder, TARGETED CHRISTIANS perhaps more than any other group.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/foxes/findex.htm
http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/

The Roman Church burned Bible believing Christians at the stake, for refusing to follow false Roman Church dogmas, that are awash in counter-gospel heresy. Like refusing to accept the Roman Church dogma of transubstantiation, or Mary as a mediator. Just as in the case of Islam today, no group posed a greater threat to the power of the Roman Church, and its bondage of men and their minds to it, than Bible believing Christians that were walking in the truth of the scriptures.

Sharing the same spirit, it's no surprise that atheists pile on with Muslims, in denigration of Christians. However even if they did allow themselves to seriously contemplate the truth, how many people influenced by the antichrist spirit of the father of lies even for a moment, would consider repenting of that? The vast majority will simply continue on with their lie of proclaiming Hitler to be a Christian, and characterizing the torture and murder of the Roman Church as being Christian, because they have no love of truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
http://www.christianeschatology.com/strong_delusion.htm

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Re: Hitler's Dupes
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 08:45:57 AM »
Additionally, there seems to be a lot of unintentional, as well as intentional, misunderstanding of the term "antichrist". This isn't rocket science:

1 John 2:22 .....He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father.....

Thus the scriptures make it easy for a person with even the slightest capacity to be honest with themselves, to judge for themselves as to whether they are antichrist or not, according to the only source that introduces and defines the term. I dedicated a thread to the subject, but atheists continue to run and hide from it as if it were never posted, so they can continue to blame the messenger as if that verse were my composition.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TLTESFOG61VOD0N5F

Even as the atheists wish to fight against Islam to save their heirs from that blight on mankind, because they share the same spirit of antichrist, they turn right around and rail against the single greatest force that is changing the hearts of Muslims more than any other force in the world today. With 6 million Muslims coming to know the love of God through a relationship with Jesus Christ, every year, in Africa alone. About 40% of of whom are coming to Christ through a dream, vision, or being spoken to directly by Jesus Christ.
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.php

Muslims cite historical record in scripture, of specific historical events of 3500 years ago, as if they justify the 7th century imperialistic conquest and rape, murder, mayhem and thievery thereof, of Muhammad and his followers. Even as they are aware of old covenant commandments such as:

Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

As Don Richardson reports in "Secrets of the Koran", "By Muhammad's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."
http://www.brotherpete.com/old_testament_violence.htm

So would the world really be better off, as atheists often claim, if there were more Godless people and casual liars in it? Were the Cambodians better off under Pol Pot? Or would the world be a better place with more people that are called to love our neighbors as ourselves? More people that believe we will be held to account by our Creator, for eternity, for our behavior?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfjYeQzCwzU

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Re: Was Hitler a Christian?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 10:25:59 PM »
Had Hitler distanced himself or his movement too much from Christianity it is all but impossible to see how he could ever have been successful in a free election". Alan Bullock wrote that even though Hitler frequently employed the language of "divine providence" in defence of his own myth, he ultimately shared with the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, a materialist outlook, "based on the nineteenth century rationalists' certainty that the progress of science would destroy all myths and had already proved Christian doctrine to be an absurdity".  According to Geoffrey Blainey, when the Nazis became the main opponent of Communism in Germany, Hitler saw Christianity as a temporary ally. He made various public comments against "bolshevistic" atheist movements, and in favour of so-called "Positive Christianity" (a movement which sought to nazify Christianity by purging it of its Jewish elements, the Old Testament and key doctrines like the Apostle's Creed). In a 1922 speech he said "my feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter". In Mein Kampf, he declared himself neutral in sectarian matters and supportive of the separation between church and state, and criticised political Catholicism. In it, he presented a nihilistic, Social Darwinist vision, in which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s, Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling Christianity the foundation of German morality. Kershaw considers that use of such rhetoric served to placate potential criticism from the Church. According to Max Domarus, Hitler had fully discarded belief in the Judeo-Christian conception of God by 1937, but continued to use the word "God" in speeches.

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Re: Was Hitler a Christian?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 09:37:09 AM »
A continuation of the post in the Topix Islam forum:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TDNOK047BLHTR8EL3

So where is the usual cacophony of atheists proselytizing for the faith of atheism on this thread?
Could it be because this thread drove a conspicuous stake into the heart of a primary doctrine in the faith of atheism?

If an atheist became honest enough with themselves and others, to judge the UNChristian deeds of some men according to the Gospel (through which Christians are to receive our commandments and guidance), rather than to condemn the Gospel according to the deeds of men as atheists dishonestly or ignorantly parrot, all that remains of Christianity is the love of God as expressed through the Gospel of Jesus Christ and as exampled by Christians as in the video on the prior panel.

Yet these same people that lack the capacity to be honest with themselves, repeatedly proclaim what a wonderful world it would be if there were more people like them in it, that can't even be honest with themselves much less others. Some of whom even casually lie in this forum. A wonderful world that would ultimately be ruled by the "fittest" that survived, like Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and Muhammad, who all shared the same spiritual condition according to the scriptures:

1 John 2:22..... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father

Let alone that nearly to the man, these same atheists readily admit to self-imposed abject ignorance to the Bible and subjects like related history and archaeology.....
http://www.bing.com/search?q=archaeology+confirms+bible&qs=HS&pq=archaeology+confi&sc=8-17&sp=1&cvid=a575ca3ceb0f40aab43d472af68c7054&FORM=QBLH
.....and fulfilled Bible prophecy.....
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/bible_prophecy.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/isaiah_53.htm
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/psalms_22.htm
.....and the mathematical precision thereof.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

With one of the few that suggests any significant exposure to such things at all, indicating that he has fooled himself into believing that he had the intellectual and emotional capacity to make a decision as to whether God exists or not, at the ripe old age of 11.

Yet even as these people place their PURE BLIND FAITH in DISbelief and unite behind their false doctrines - such as violent evil and murder representing Christianity, and holding it as staunchly as the Roman Catholics hold their unsupportable doctrines of Marianism - atheists actually turn around and deny that atheism is a religion even as the proselytize for it, in spite of their abject ignorance to Christianity, in places like this forum!
Isn't that a corker?!

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Re: Was Hitler a Christian?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2015, 09:48:06 AM »
If an atheist became honest enough with themselves and others, to judge the UNChristian deeds of some men according to the Gospel (through which Christians are to receive our commandments and guidance), rather than to accuse and condemn the Gospel according to the deeds of men as atheists dishonestly or ignorantly parrot, all that remains of Christianity is the love of God as expressed through the Gospel of Jesus Christ and as exampled by Christians......

Now in that context consider this transparent error in the words of the man contending for atheism in this debate video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5OajO7nrc

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Re: Was Hitler a Christian?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 09:53:03 AM »
I want to thank Cujo for reminding me of yet another doctrine and touchstone, of pure blind faith in DISbelief, in the religion of atheism:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T96OSIM8KTVSBN3HT/post11

"I think both Islam and Christianity are despicable religions. Christians are not immune from terrorizing people as many Christians claim, or use the no true Scotsman fallacy."

Atheists parroting each other with this frequently invoked atheist doctrine, by citing the "no true Scotsman fallacy", in their inept defense of their contention against the Gospel. It obviously isn't a fallacy in this case, but rather it all purely boils down to common sense, and whether a person has the capacity to be honest with themselves or not.

That is whether a non-Christian can be honest enough to measure the behavior of a person that proclaims themselves to be Christian, according to what the Gospel that we are to follow describes that a Christian should be, as a result of the commandments and examples we are given through Jesus and His followers. As in the previous video example.

Or whether a person chooses to be so dishonest with themselves, that they instead measure Christianity and the God of our inspired scriptures, according to the evil deeds and even murderous and black-hearted behavior, of some men that falsely proclaimed themselves to be Christian.

Men who themselves, may not have realized, that they were never "born again" and given a new heart.

Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

However by the same measure though, an honest person is given assurance that orthodox Muslims that participate in the violent imperialism of Islamic Jihad, are doing as their "messenger" and his followers did and as Muhammad prescribed for them to do, which is also consistent with 1400 years of Islamic history as well as the way Islam is revealed around the world today.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm

Yet because atheists and Muslims share the same antichrist spiritual condition, we find them joining shoulder to shoulder in contending against the Gospel of Jesus Christ, in this forum. The one force in the world today that changes the hearts of Muslims by the millions, every year.

Yet when an atheist finally makes a decision, to honestly seek out the truth, what might they find?

"Randall Niles was the definitive skeptic, critic, and cynic. Forged in the fires of Georgetown, Oxford, and Berkeley, Randall's peers knew him as a "practicing atheist." Then, in what seemed to be overnight, people witnessed a dramatic shift in his life. Go on a journey with Randall as he poses questions, explores assumptions, and challenges his long-held preconceptions about life, purpose, and meaning."
http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/

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Re: Was Hitler a Christian? - The Religion of Atheism Handbook and Doctrine
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 08:58:14 AM »
Another cherished doctrine of atheists is to assign to all Christians a belief that the universe did not exist before 6,000 years ago, and then after setting up their straw man, citing a few of the stronger points of the theory of evolution.

However the various theories of the origins of man is something that Christians don't even consider anything to break fellowship over.
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/asaviews.htm

But at bit of a "hmmmm......" that strikes me - that I don't doubt there is a theory to explain - is that it seems a bit illogical that mankind is supposed to have evolved over hundreds of millions of years, yet after all that time it is only within the last 6,000 years that our population has increased to 6 billion, from a tiny thread that is apparently supposed to have survived for millions of years as a basically nonexistent population prior to this last 6,000 years.



And of course atheists don't want to pull their heads too far out of the sand, but instead choose self-imposed ignorance to such things as fulfilled prophecy and the statistical odds against the mathematical precision thereof.

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Another cherished doctrine in the religion of atheism - in which atheist antichrists unsurprisingly join Muslim antichrists - is criticizing the very God that they deny and/or His people He commanded, to exact divine justice on the Canaanites, after having given them over 400 years to repent of their evil ways and deeds. By suggesting the exercise of divine justice was wrong, they essentially render themselves champions of the Canaanite practices of bestiality, sacrifice of children to idols, pedophilia, ritualistic prostitution and related diseases that it was to be brought to an end.

Many Christians address this atheist objection:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=atheist+canaanites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulCbh_1SlwE

I doubt it is a stretch to imagine that the vast majority of atheists are not comparably opinionated, regarding the 50 million children that have been killed in the U.S. alone since Roe V Wade, 3500 years after that historical event.
For those that are ignorant regarding the individuals on who's behalf that decision was supposedly ruled:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=norma+mccorvey+sandra+cano&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=norma+mccorvey+sandra+cano&sc=0-25&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=9a3968f0b08f46a8933ae5ecaa295269

While atheists carp on and on about this specific historical event of a few thousand years ago, in accusation against God and Jews, Muslims on the other hand suggest it is evidence that the Old Testament scriptures are corrupt. Either that or they cite this specific historical event in scripture as if it constituted some sort of old covenant law, as justification for Muhammad's mass murder of YHWH's innocent people of 2500 years later, and 1,500 years after any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God.
http://www.brotherpete.com/old_testament_violence.htm

This even though Muslims (and most everyone else in the world) is well familiar with the actual old covenant law:
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Let alone Muslims being stuck having to defend Muhammad's reprobate nature as revealed through Islam's own books, as compared to Jesus' sinlessness.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

The reason Muslims and atheists would seem to be two peas in a pod in these regards is they are both antichrist.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Atheists will carp on and on about God's commandment for His people to wipe out the Canaanites (and their evil deeds related diseases), while repeatedly ignoring the fact that those of us that do believe in God understand that all innocent people that have ever died or been killed are with the Lord today. The carping on and on is often a transparent effort to avoid honest and open discussion, as well as to divert attention away from how little they know about scripture, related history, archaeology and fulfilled Bible prophecy.
Here's an example of an atheist carping on and on about the Canaanites, while dodging other discussion, in this forum.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=4643.msg17866#msg17866

In this case ultimately even tacitly desiring the Canaanites to have been innocent, even though all of their wicked practices are still engaged in around the world today.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=4643.msg17892#msg17892