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Re: Chat with faro 11 to 12-10
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2010, 10:09:41 AM »
12-6

What you doing is clearly unrighteous and you dont even know it
In the name of Allah Most gracious most merciful
!8:48 And the devil adorned their work for them, and
he said: "None from mankind can defeat you today, and I
(DEVIL) am by your side." But when the two forces came
together, he turned on his heels to flee and he said: "I am innocent from you! I see what you do not see. I fear God, and God is severe in punishment."

8:49 The hypocrites and those who have a disease in their hearts said: "These people have been deceived by their system." But whoever puts his trust in God, then God is Noble, Wise.

8:50 And if you could only see as the Angels take those who have rejected, they strike their faces and their backs: "Taste the punishment of the blazing Fire!"

Listen To what this verse is saying about people like you he has made your deeds fair seeming to you thats y you say its righteous what you do
PEACE BE UPON YOU DUDE AND MAY ALLAH HELP AND GUIDE BOTH ME AND YOU!


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Re: Chat with faro 11 to 12-10
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2010, 10:14:48 AM »
12-7

Well Thank you for insulting and making fun of My deceased uncle its nice too look at family in Pain :( and on top of that you call it righteous good luck with you mission of reverting muslims i bet you wont put this msg or the Pornography in the bible msg on your blog............................... You know what im gonna do im in the process of reverting some people im gonna show them this video you made about my deceased unlce and im gonna tell them look how people treat the truth and look how they react to it ........... then im gonna Show them your inbox msgs (oh by the way there christians) ................ i cried when i saw your video and these future revert loe ahmed deedat and ive showed them ALL ALL ALL ALL his videos and his msg is the same in all of them
So even if ahmed deedat made a mistake they know that he corrects it in other video oh yea thanks again for insulting my uncle by the way i can use this to my advantage now :) May the Peace and Blessing of allah be with you

.......... GOD OR YHWH IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF PORN OR CONTRADICTIONS k
30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

Gen19:31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PORN
32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INCEST
35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father


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Re: Chat with faro 11 to 12-10
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2010, 02:28:02 PM »
Dec 11

Lol I dont need to alter It i just add the Part where Deedat corrects himself for the Mistake He made in the lecture Oh wait you dont Have those lectures Do you good luck finding them youll just use them to make more insulting videos and im going to use them and add what i have into it without changing or deleting!!!!!!!!

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Extension faro
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2010, 07:32:18 AM »
Dec 12

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
Quran - 16:125

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
Quran - 2:256

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Quran - 21:18

If the followers of the Bible would but attain to [true] faith and God-consciousness, We should indeed efface their [previous] bad deeds, and indeed bring them into gardens of bliss;and if they would but truly observe the Torah and the Gospel and all [the revelation] that has been bestowed from on high upon them by their Sustainer, they would indeed partake of all the blessings of heaven and earth. Some of them do pursue a right course; but as for most of them -vile indeed is what they do!
Quran - 5:65-66

Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." And if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Quran - 3:64

Say: "O followers of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs; and do not follow the errant views of people who have gone astray aforetime, and have led many [others] astray, and are still straying from the right path."
Quran - 5:77
THOSE of the children of Israel who were bent on denying the truth have [already] been cursed by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary? this, because they rebelled [against God] and persisted in transgressing the bounds of what is right.

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority.
Quran - 4:153

Biblical illiteracy ELLA stands for God Elohim in the Hebrew language is plural or respects allah stands for God Allahim is plural of respects its the genius of the arabic and hebrew languages but your so called "biblical literate" have associtated that as ascribing Divine partners to the one God ask any jewish rabbi or any arab christian Or an Arab
"We" is Majestic a term Used for 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

See you Dont mention
John 3:6
where Flesh gives birth to only Flesh and spirit Gives birth to only spirit
If you look at the original greek it uses the word begotten
http://biblos.com/john/3-6.htm
So flesh can ONLY give birth to flesh
Meaning God is not Flesh

So He Cant Beget Flesh according to your Bible The original 4 in cannon

John 3:16
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only
begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But Jesus Was not The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE WORLD DAVID WAS THE FIRST BEGOTTEN ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE CLEAR CONTRADICTION

Psalm of David 2:7
I will declare the decree:
the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art]
my Son; this day have
I begotten thee.

Seeeeeeeeeee I dont Get it to You so contradiction and God is not the author of Contractions so John 3:16 is OUTTTTTTTTT fabrication

The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."
verb (used with object), be·got or ( Archaic ) be·gat; be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.
(esp. of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
spawn, sire, breed, father

Are you serious???????? Get it now

Matthew 5:Jesus saying
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19"Whoever then breaks one of the
least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same,
shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;
but whoever keeps and teaches them,
he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mark 12:28,29,30
And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him,
"Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Jesus answered,
"The most important is,
'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
And you shall love the Lord your God
with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind and with all your strength.

Shema — listen, or hear & do
Yisrael — Israel, in the sense of the people or congregation of Israel
Adonai — often translated as "Lord"
Eloheinu — our God, the word "El" or "Eloh" signifying God
---------> This word Ehad and the Arabic Word Ahad down below
Eḥad — the Hebrew word for the number 1, which has the dual meaning "one" and "alone", its root is also "unique"

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one

In the Name Of God most Gracious Most Merciful
112:1 Qul huwa Allahu ahad'un'
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."

The Most important Is God Is ONE and ONLY ONE jesus said this Are you breaking the commandments by saying God Has A partner a Begotten Son
BLASPHEMY jesus said He will be called the least in the kingdom
Do the Will of God only worship One God Who is my God and Your God


God Is Spirit So AccorDing to your Bible (not me) How can He beget flesh
Keep reading

But Jesus is Flesh and blood was Born of Flesh and Blood = VIRGIN mary

2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
See you guys say he is God But Jesus is Flesh and God is God and flesh Begets Flesh sooo keep reading

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1

Paul says Jesus is God but God is Spirit and Jesus Is flesh So according to John 3:6 God did not Beget jesus and That is Blasphemy

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."
And [both] the Jews and the Christians say, "We are God's children, and His beloved ones." Say: "Why, then, does He cause you to suffer for your sins? Nay, you are but human beings of His creating. He forgives whom He wills, and He causes to suffer whom He wills: for God's is the dominion over the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and with Him is all journeys' end.
O followers of the Bible! Now, after a long time during which no apostles have appeared, there has come unto you [this] Our Apostle to make [the truth] clear to you, lest you say, "No bearer of glad tidings has come unto us, nor any warner ": for now there has come unto you a bearer of glad tidings and a warner -since God has the power to will anything.


Let's See how Paul deceives Timothy
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23
Are you serious Wine even a little Dude wine is not the same as it was back then it was strong and Got people Drunk is this his advice alcohol is the No.1 abused substance in america its the Cause of death fights divorces rape abuse and what not Seriously advising wine???????

1 Corinthians 15:50
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
^^^^^^^ This Came After Matthew Mark Luke And John So I Guess Contradicts Alot doesnt it and is a fabrication !!!!!!!!!!!

So Jesus Cannot Enter the Kingdom REALLLLLLLYYYYY
Fabricationnnnnnnnnnnn and contradiction of Paul Paul

Quran - 4:82
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions.
Quran - 4:82


God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:24
http://interlinearbible.org/john/4-24.htm
You SEEEEEEE READDDDDD


Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world's viewpoint, and the world listens to them.
1 John 4:5
We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:6

Paul to timothy HIS ADVICE no more water but a lil wine for .......
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul was never a disciple he never saw Jesus in the flesh he saw a Ghost in the Sky when he was on his way to Persecuting Christians
who referred to himself as the "Apostle to the Gentiles" or nations in Greek. [Rom 11:13]
Thirteen epistles, or letters, in the New Testament are attributed to Paul
Paul confesses to having "violently persecuted" the "church of God" prior to his conversion.[15>
There is no explicit written record that Paul had known Jesus personally prior to the Crucifixion yet it is unlikely that he was not well aware of Jesus' ministry or his trial before the Chief Priest.[citation needed]
Paul asserted that he received the Gospel not from any person, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.[Gal. 1:11--12].
Paul also mentions that even Barnabas (his traveling companion and fellow apostle until that time) sided with Peter.
"Barnabas Calls Paul a Deceiver in his Gospel of Barnabas----- Muhammad wasn't born neither could he read or write and Gospel of Barnabas was Considered in Nissan in 325 AC so How can it be a muslim Fabrication when the pope took a copy in 378 AC for himself then lended it out????

In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.
In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450.) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.
Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.

Introduction By Saint Barnabas WHO KNEW PAUL AS YOU READ

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth desireth peace and consolation.

"Dearly beloved the great and wonderful God hath during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, by reason whereof many, being deceived of Satan, under presence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul hath been deceived, whereof I speak not without grief; for which cause I am writing that truth which I have seen and heard, in the intercourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that ye may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgment of God. Therefore beware of every one that preacheth unto you new doctrine contrary to that which I write, that ye may be saved eternally.

The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and and from every evil. Amen. "

Chapter 1. Gospel of Barnabas

But Jesus said:
Matthew 10:5,6
These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: "Do not
go in the way of the Gentiles, and
do not
enter any city of the Samaritans;
but
only to the people of Israel--God's lost sheep.
Matthew 10:5,6

further proof when a gentile needs help this is what Jesus says:
Matthew 15:23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent
only
to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Matthew 15:24

Paul a apostle to the gentiles is a Lie because Jesus said dont take my message to the Gentiles it is ONLY ONLY ONLY for the lost sheep of israel........
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"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
John 14:26

Remember pauls advice is False its breaking a commandment but THE HELPER WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS and remembrance all that I I I (JESUS) said to you

Quran
[And,] lo, the white-garbed ones said: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Could thy Sustainer send down unto us a repast from heaven?" [Jesus] answered: "Be conscious of God, if you are [truly] believers!"
NOW WHEN Jesus came [to his people] with all evidence of the truth, he said: "I have now come unto you with wisdom, and to make clear Unto you some of that on which you are at variance: hence, be conscious of God, and pay heed unto me.
And [this happened, too,] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O children of Israel! Behold, I am an apostle of God unto you, [sent] to confirm the truth of whatever there still remains of the Torah, and to give [you] the glad tiding of an apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he [whose coming Jesus had foretold] came unto them with all evidence of the truth, they said: "This [alleged message of his] is [nothing but] spellbinding eloquence!"
Quran - 61:6 Quran - 43:63

Quran - 5:90
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.
Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
Quran - 5:91

"But I will send you the Advocate--the Spirit of truth. He will come to you from the Father and will testify all about me.
John 15:26

Read Below the Story of Mary PBUH and Jesus PBUH

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes,
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
"All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
John 16:12,13,14,15

Quran
Lo! God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember the blessings which I bestowed upon thee and thy mother-how I strengthened thee with holy inspiration, so that thou couldst speak unto men in thy cradle, and as a grown man; and how I imparted unto thee revelation and wisdom, including the Torah and the Gospel; and how by My leave thou didst create out of clay, as it were, the shape of [thy followers'] destiny, and then didst breathe into it, so that it might become, by My leave, [their] destiny; and how thou didst heal the blind and the leper by My leave, and how thou didst raise the dead by My leave; and how I prevented the children of Israel from harming thee when thou camest unto them with all evidence of the truth, and [when] those of them who were bent on denying the truth were saying, `This is clearly nothing but deception!"'
5:110

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away;
for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;
concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
John 16:9

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2010, 07:32:28 AM »
Part 2

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NOW your probably like the "holy spirit" the "holy ghost" right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul says he had it But was in grave error and lied as i told you above
1 Corinthians 11: Paul Talking on Christian Order
6 For if a woman does not cover her head,
let her also have her hair cut off;
but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved,
she should cover her head.

Wait a minute lets read Further yet another contradiction
"A SPIRIT OF ERROR" Indeed and his epistles PROVE IT (Most women in that Time even today in those areas have long hair) (Men are more attracted to women with Long Hair <---fact)
Paul doesn't specify which hair for women should be covered "DOES HE" If a woman does not cover her head.........thats all he says

is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
1 cor 11:13 part

>--------------------->>>>>contradiction is a few verses later

1 Corinthians 11:
15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

1 Corinthians 14:34
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says

1 Corinthians 11:10
For this reason, and because the angels are watching, a woman should wear a covering on her head to show she is under authority.""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Hair in itself is "NOT" a covering you remember what you said to me
A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God's image and reflects God's glory. And woman reflects man's glory.
1 Corinthians 11:7

So it explains hair yes hair Long short thin black brown white should Be covered on a woman GET IT NOW SPIRIT OF ERRORRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
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for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
THAT MEANS IF JESUS DOESNT GO THE HELPER WILL NOT COME = AFTER JESUS But wait a minute the Holy spirit/Holy ghost was already here even Before Jesus Read John was born Before right JOHN WAS BORN BEFORE JESUS

But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zacharias,
for your petition has been heard,
and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son,
and you will give him the name John.
"You will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth.
"For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and
he will be filled with
the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb.
Luke 1:13,14,15

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb;
and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:41
And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit,
and prophesied, saying:
Luke 1:67
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit,
returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness
Luke 4:1
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
Luke 10:21

So this Ghost or Spirit was Before Jesus but spirit of truth MANAKHMAH = comforter, helper, or advocate is suppose to be another after him another Person HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM
Jesus uses all masculine pronouns no other paragraph in the new testament is like this in 3 consecutive chapters

John 14:16-17
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you
another Counselor to be with you forever--
that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He,
the Spirit of truth, comes,(when he comes later not already exsisting Spirit in LUKE CHP)
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.

for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak
The Holy Quran via Prophet Muhammad ---dictated via Angel Jibraeel FROM GOD FROM THE ONE AND ONLY GOD ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)

and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
(He will Take what jesus said, jesus said unto them, jesus replied, jesus commanded, etc etc and diclose it to you)
The world cannot receive becauseeeeeeeeeeee it because it does not see
HIM NO PICTURE OF MUHAMMAD HE WAS ONLY IN ARABIA NOT EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD NEITHER DOES THE WORLD KNOW HIM PERSONALLY
Because He abides with you in the memorized verses of the HOLY QURAN AND it WILL BE WITH YOU FOREVER many people memorize the Holy quran MANY MANY MANY people within 6 mnths to a year memorize the WHole Book it is easily memorized -------who memorizes the whole entire BIBLE in that amount of time maybe a few people but not millions of people .... the Quran is memorized by millions and it dwells with them the lessons the teaching the commands of The one GOD {ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)}

1 John 4:2
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that
Jesus is Christ (greek Kristos=annointed one the messiah, arabic + aramaic Massih= Messiah) has come
in the flesh is of God: (A prophet a messenger of God OF GOD OF OF OF)
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the
flesh is from God; (Like The Quran IS FROM FROM FROM GOD)
http://interlinearbible.org/1_john/4-2.htm
This is the website------->>>>>
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1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not
of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

and even now already is it already in the world. this is the epistle of John written after Gospel According to John EVEN NOW ALREADY IN THE WORLD
So in the Epistle of John ^^^^^^^ it was now already in the World Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born 600 years after Jesus PBUH BUT PAUL WASNT BUT PAUL WASNT BORN 600 YEARS AFTER JESUS remember what Barnabas said in his Banned Gospel



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Psalm of David 84:5
Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage
As they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
Psalm 84:6

Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead

bakkata mubarakan wahudan lilAAalameena
Quran - 3:96
Behold, the first Temple ever set up for mankind was indeed the one at Bakkah: rich in blessing, and a [source of] guidance unto all the worlds,
full of clear messages. [It is] the place whereon Abraham once stood; and whoever enters it finds inner peace. Hence, pilgrimage unto the Temple is a duty owed to God by all people who are able to undertake it. And as for those who deny the truth - verily, God does not stand in need of anything in all the worlds.
Quran - 3:97

3:98
SAY: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth of God's messages, when God is witness to all that you do?"
Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you [endeavour to] bar those who have come to believe [in this divine writ] from the path of God by trying to make it appear crooked, when you yourselves bear witness [to its being straight]? For, God is not unaware of what you do."
3:99


1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
^^^^^^^^^^
Christ is come in the flesh begotten of Flesh (Mary PBUH) and if the spirit (Prophet) confeseth that he came in the Flesh........that Prophet (That sprirt is of God)

UNDENIABLE TRUTH UNDENIABLE PROOF

There is one Lord, one faith====== ONLY ONE GOD and NONE has the right to be worshiped except The One God

Read In the Name Of your Lord WHo created :) :) :)

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Quran - 5:75

19:16
And relate in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east.
19:17
She took to a barrier which separated her from them, so We sent Our spirit to her, and he took on the shape of a human in all similarity.
19:18
She said: "I seek refuge with the Almighty from you if you are a person of faith."
19:19
He said: "I am the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son."
19:20
She said: "How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such"
19:21
He said: "It is such that your Lord has said,
it is easy for Me. And We shall make him a sign for mankind and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already ordained." (refer to 19:35 and 3:59 below)
19:22
So she was pregnant with him, and she went to deliver in a far place.
19:23
Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said: "I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!"
19:24
But then he called to her from beneath her: "Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream."
19:25
"And shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you."
19:26
"So eat and drink and be happy. If you see any human being, then Say: "I have declared a fast for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any of mankind.""
19:27
Then she came to her people carrying him. They said: "O Mary, you have come with something totally unexpected!"
19:28
"O sister of Aaron, your father was not a bad man, and your mother was never unchaste!"
19:29
So she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle"
19:30
He said: "I am God's servant, He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
19:31
"And He made me blessed wherever I was, and He charged me with the contact-method and towards betterment as long as I am alive."
19:32
"And to be dutiful to my mother, and He did not make me a rebellious tyrant."
19:33
"And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I am resurrected alive."
19:34
Such was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of the matter in which they doubt.
19:35
God was never to take a son, be He glorified.

If He decrees a matter, then He simply says to it: "Be," and it is.

19:36
And God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him. This is a straight path.
19:37
So the parties disputed between them. Therefore, woe to those who have rejected from the scene of a terrible Day.

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
3:59

Say: "O followers of the Bible! You have no valid ground for your beliefs -unless you [truly] observe the Torah and the Gospel, and all that has been bestowed from on high upon you by your Sustainer!" Yet all that has been bestowed from on high upon thee [O Prophet] by thy Sustainer is bound to make many of them yet more stubborn in their overweening arrogance and in their denial of the truth. But sorrow not over people who deny the truth:
Quran - 5:68
for, verily, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Sabians, and the Christians - all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds - no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2010, 07:34:27 AM »
Dec 12

Take your Time and read Break down everything everything from this I will be patient for your reply read the whole thing once before you start breaking it Down i want you to back up everything you say with websites given below in multi translations of the bible as well as the original greek version of the verses "try and keep it within matthew mark Luke and John" but if you wish to use the un orginal four back up the info with the original four and when your Qouting verses dont use them out of context i would like the first three verses and three verses after every verse you qoute with refrences of which book which chapter the word by word refrence websites are below You say you Love me right as a brother then you will not conceal or hide anything this is not about ego or pride this is us coming to common terms if God wills

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
Quran - 16:125

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
Quran - 2:256

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Quran - 21:18

If the followers of the Bible would but attain to [true] faith and God-consciousness, We should indeed efface their [previous] bad deeds, and indeed bring them into gardens of bliss;and if they would but truly observe the Torah and the Gospel and all [the revelation] that has been bestowed from on high upon them by their Sustainer, they would indeed partake of all the blessings of heaven and earth. Some of them do pursue a right course; but as for most of them -vile indeed is what they do!
Quran - 5:65-66

Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." And if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Quran - 3:64

Say: "O followers of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs; and do not follow the errant views of people who have gone astray aforetime, and have led many [others] astray, and are still straying from the right path."
Quran - 5:77
THOSE of the children of Israel who were bent on denying the truth have [already] been cursed by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary? this, because they rebelled [against God] and persisted in transgressing the bounds of what is right.

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority.
Quran - 4:153

Biblical illiteracy ELLA stands for God Elohim in the Hebrew language is plural or respects allah stands for God Allahim is plural of respects its the genius of the arabic and hebrew languages but your so called "biblical literate" have associtated that as ascribing Divine partners to the one God ask any jewish rabbi or any arab christian Or an Arab
"We" is Majestic a term Used for 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

See you Dont mention
John 3:6
where Flesh gives birth to only Flesh and spirit Gives birth to only spirit
If you look at the original greek it uses the word begotten
http://biblos.com/john/3-6.htm
So flesh can ONLY give birth to flesh
Meaning God is not Flesh

So He Cant Beget Flesh according to your Bible The original 4 in cannon

John 3:16
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only
begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But Jesus Was not The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE WORLD DAVID WAS THE FIRST BEGOTTEN ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE CLEAR CONTRADICTION

Psalm of David 2:7
I will declare the decree:
the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art]
my Son; this day have
I begotten thee.

Seeeeeeeeeee I dont Get it to You so contradiction and God is not the author of Contractions so John 3:16 is OUTTTTTTTTT fabrication

The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."
verb (used with object), be·got or ( Archaic ) be·gat; be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.
(esp. of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
spawn, sire, breed, father

Are you serious???????? Get it now

Matthew 5:Jesus saying
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19"Whoever then breaks one of the
least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same,
shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;
but whoever keeps and teaches them,
he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mark 12:28,29,30
And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him,
"Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Jesus answered,
"The most important is,
'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
And you shall love the Lord your God
with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind and with all your strength.

Shema — listen, or hear & do
Yisrael — Israel, in the sense of the people or congregation of Israel
Adonai — often translated as "Lord"
Eloheinu — our God, the word "El" or "Eloh" signifying God
---------> This word Ehad and the Arabic Word Ahad down below
Eḥad — the Hebrew word for the number 1, which has the dual meaning "one" and "alone", its root is also "unique"

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one

In the Name Of God most Gracious Most Merciful
112:1 Qul huwa Allahu ahad'un'
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."

The Most important Is God Is ONE and ONLY ONE jesus said this Are you breaking the commandments by saying God Has A partner a Begotten Son
BLASPHEMY jesus said He will be called the least in the kingdom
Do the Will of God only worship One God Who is my God and Your God


God Is Spirit So AccorDing to your Bible (not me) How can He beget flesh
Keep reading

But Jesus is Flesh and blood was Born of Flesh and Blood = VIRGIN mary

2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
See you guys say he is God But Jesus is Flesh and God is God and flesh Begets Flesh sooo keep reading

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1

Paul says Jesus is God but God is Spirit and Jesus Is flesh So according to John 3:6 God did not Beget jesus and That is Blasphemy

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."
And [both] the Jews and the Christians say, "We are God's children, and His beloved ones." Say: "Why, then, does He cause you to suffer for your sins? Nay, you are but human beings of His creating. He forgives whom He wills, and He causes to suffer whom He wills: for God's is the dominion over the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and with Him is all journeys' end.
O followers of the Bible! Now, after a long time during which no apostles have appeared, there has come unto you [this] Our Apostle to make [the truth] clear to you, lest you say, "No bearer of glad tidings has come unto us, nor any warner ": for now there has come unto you a bearer of glad tidings and a warner -since God has the power to will anything.


Let's See how Paul deceives Timothy
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23
Are you serious Wine even a little Dude wine is not the same as it was back then it was strong and Got people Drunk is this his advice alcohol is the No.1 abused substance in america its the Cause of death fights divorces rape abuse and what not Seriously advising wine???????

1 Corinthians 15:50
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
^^^^^^^ This Came After Matthew Mark Luke And John So I Guess Contradicts Alot doesnt it and is a fabrication !!!!!!!!!!!

So Jesus Cannot Enter the Kingdom REALLLLLLLYYYYY
Fabricationnnnnnnnnnnn and contradiction of Paul Paul

Quran - 4:82
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions.
Quran - 4:82


God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:24
http://interlinearbible.org/john/4-24.htm
You SEEEEEEE READDDDDD


Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world's viewpoint, and the world listens to them.
1 John 4:5
We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:6

Paul to timothy HIS ADVICE no more water but a lil wine for .......
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul was never a disciple he never saw Jesus in the flesh he saw a Ghost in the Sky when he was on his way to Persecuting Christians
who referred to himself as the "Apostle to the Gentiles" or nations in Greek. [Rom 11:13]
Thirteen epistles, or letters, in the New Testament are attributed to Paul
Paul confesses to having "violently persecuted" the "church of God" prior to his conversion.[15>
There is no explicit written record that Paul had known Jesus personally prior to the Crucifixion yet it is unlikely that he was not well aware of Jesus' ministry or his trial before the Chief Priest.[citation needed]
Paul asserted that he received the Gospel not from any person, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.[Gal. 1:11--12].
Paul also mentions that even Barnabas (his traveling companion and fellow apostle until that time) sided with Peter.
"Barnabas Calls Paul a Deceiver in his Gospel of Barnabas----- Muhammad wasn't born neither could he read or write and Gospel of Barnabas was Considered in Nissan in 325 AC so How can it be a muslim Fabrication when the pope took a copy in 378 AC for himself then lended it out????

In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.
In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450.) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.
Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.

Introduction By Saint Barnabas WHO KNEW PAUL AS YOU READ

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth desireth peace and consolation.

"Dearly beloved the great and wonderful God hath during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, by reason whereof many, being deceived of Satan, under presence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul hath been deceived, whereof I speak not without grief; for which cause I am writing that truth which I have seen and heard, in the intercourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that ye may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgment of God. Therefore beware of every one that preacheth unto you new doctrine contrary to that which I write, that ye may be saved eternally.

The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and and from every evil. Amen. "

Chapter 1. Gospel of Barnabas

But Jesus said:
Matthew 10:5,6
These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: "Do not
go in the way of the Gentiles, and
do not
enter any city of the Samaritans;
but
only to the people of Israel--God's lost sheep.
Matthew 10:5,6

further proof when a gentile needs help this is what Jesus says:
Matthew 15:23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent
only
to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Matthew 15:24

Paul a apostle to the gentiles is a Lie because Jesus said dont take my message to the Gentiles it is ONLY ONLY ONLY for the lost sheep of israel........

O FOLLOWERS of earlier revelation! Why do you argue about Abraham, seeing that the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till [long] after him? Will you not, then, use your reason?
Lo! You are the ones who would argue about that which is known to you; but why do you argue about something which is unknown to you? Yet God knows [it], whereas you do not know:
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith.
Quran - 3:65-68

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2010, 07:34:46 AM »
Part 2
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"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
John 14:26

Remember pauls advice is False its breaking a commandment but THE HELPER WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS and remembrance all that I I I (JESUS) said to you

Quran
[And,] lo, the white-garbed ones said: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Could thy Sustainer send down unto us a repast from heaven?" [Jesus] answered: "Be conscious of God, if you are [truly] believers!"
NOW WHEN Jesus came [to his people] with all evidence of the truth, he said: "I have now come unto you with wisdom, and to make clear Unto you some of that on which you are at variance: hence, be conscious of God, and pay heed unto me.
And [this happened, too,] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O children of Israel! Behold, I am an apostle of God unto you, [sent] to confirm the truth of whatever there still remains of the Torah, and to give [you] the glad tiding of an apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he [whose coming Jesus had foretold] came unto them with all evidence of the truth, they said: "This [alleged message of his] is [nothing but] spellbinding eloquence!"
Quran - 61:6 Quran - 43:63

Quran - 5:90
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.
Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
Quran - 5:91

"But I will send you the Advocate--the Spirit of truth. He will come to you from the Father and will testify all about me.
John 15:26

Read Below the Story of Mary PBUH and Jesus PBUH

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes,
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
"All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
John 16:12,13,14,15

[Qur'an 61:6]
Recall that Jesus, son of Mary, said, "O Children of Israel, I am GOD's messenger to you, confirming the Torah and bringing good news of a messenger to come after me whose name will be even more praised (Ahmad)." Then, when he showed them the clear proofs, they said, "This is profound magic."

Quran
Lo! God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember the blessings which I bestowed upon thee and thy mother-how I strengthened thee with holy inspiration, so that thou couldst speak unto men in thy cradle, and as a grown man; and how I imparted unto thee revelation and wisdom, including the Torah and the Gospel; and how by My leave thou didst create out of clay, as it were, the shape of [thy followers'] destiny, and then didst breathe into it, so that it might become, by My leave, [their] destiny; and how thou didst heal the blind and the leper by My leave, and how thou didst raise the dead by My leave; and how I prevented the children of Israel from harming thee when thou camest unto them with all evidence of the truth, and [when] those of them who were bent on denying the truth were saying, `This is clearly nothing but deception!"'
5:110

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away;
for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;
concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
John 16:9

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NOW your probably like the "holy spirit" the "holy ghost" right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul says he had it But was in grave error and lied as i told you above
1 Corinthians 11: Paul Talking on Christian Order
6 For if a woman does not cover her head,
let her also have her hair cut off;
but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved,
she should cover her head.

Wait a minute lets read Further yet another contradiction
"A SPIRIT OF ERROR" Indeed and his epistles PROVE IT (Most women in that Time even today in those areas have long hair) (Men are more attracted to women with Long Hair <---fact)
Paul doesn't specify which hair for women should be covered "DOES HE" If a woman does not cover her head.........thats all he says

is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
1 cor 11:13 part

>--------------------->>>>>contradiction is a few verses later

1 Corinthians 11:
15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

1 Corinthians 14:34
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says

1 Corinthians 11:10
For this reason, and because the angels are watching, a woman should wear a covering on her head to show she is under authority.""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Hair in itself is "NOT" a covering you remember what you said to me
A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God's image and reflects God's glory. And woman reflects man's glory.
1 Corinthians 11:7

So it explains hair yes hair Long short thin black brown white should Be covered on a woman GET IT NOW SPIRIT OF ERRORRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
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for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
THAT MEANS IF JESUS DOESNT GO THE HELPER WILL NOT COME = AFTER JESUS But wait a minute the Holy spirit/Holy ghost was already here even Before Jesus Read John was born Before right JOHN WAS BORN BEFORE JESUS

But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zacharias,
for your petition has been heard,
and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son,
and you will give him the name John.
"You will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth.
"For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and
he will be filled with
the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb.
Luke 1:13,14,15

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb;
and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:41
And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit,
and prophesied, saying:
Luke 1:67
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit,
returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness
Luke 4:1
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
Luke 10:21

So this Ghost or Spirit was Before Jesus but spirit of truth MANAKHMAH = comforter, helper, or advocate is suppose to be another after him another Person HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM
Jesus uses all masculine pronouns no other paragraph in the new testament is like this in 3 consecutive chapters

John 14:16-17
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you
another Counselor to be with you forever--
that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He,
the Spirit of truth, comes,(when he comes later not already exsisting Spirit in LUKE CHP)
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.

for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak
The Holy Quran via Prophet Muhammad ---dictated via Angel Jibraeel FROM GOD FROM THE ONE AND ONLY GOD ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)

and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
(He will Take what jesus said, jesus said unto them, jesus replied, jesus commanded, etc etc and diclose it to you)
The world cannot receive becauseeeeeeeeeeee it because it does not see
HIM NO PICTURE OF MUHAMMAD HE WAS ONLY IN ARABIA NOT EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD NEITHER DOES THE WORLD KNOW HIM PERSONALLY
Because He abides with you in the memorized verses of the HOLY QURAN AND it WILL BE WITH YOU FOREVER many people memorize the Holy quran MANY MANY MANY people within 6 mnths to a year memorize the WHole Book it is easily memorized -------who memorizes the whole entire BIBLE in that amount of time maybe a few people but not millions of people .... the Quran is memorized by millions and it dwells with them the lessons the teaching the commands of The one GOD {ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)}

1 John 4:2
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that
Jesus is Christ (greek Kristos=annointed one the messiah, arabic + aramaic Massih= Messiah) has come
in the flesh is of God: (A prophet a messenger of God OF GOD OF OF OF)
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the
flesh is from God; (Like The Quran IS FROM FROM FROM GOD)
http://interlinearbible.org/1_john/4-2.htm
This is the website------->>>>>
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1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not
of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

and even now already is it already in the world. this is the epistle of John written after Gospel According to John EVEN NOW ALREADY IN THE WORLD
So in the Epistle of John ^^^^^^^ it was now already in the World Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born 600 years after Jesus PBUH BUT PAUL WASNT BUT PAUL WASNT BORN 600 YEARS AFTER JESUS remember what Barnabas said in his Banned Gospel

How did Jesus teach them to pray and How did he pray himself

Matthew 6:
9"Pray, then, in this way:
'Our Father who is in heaven,
(OUR FATHER NOT MY FATHER)
Hallowed be Your name.
(YOUR NAME NOT MY NAME)

10'Your kingdom come.
(YOUR KINGDOM COME NOT MY KINGDOM)
Your will be done,
(YOUR WILL SHALL BE DONE NOT MY WILL)
On earth as it is in heaven.

11'Give us this day our daily bread.
(GIVE US OUR DAILY BREAD NOT JUST GIVE ME MY DAILY BREAD)

12'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
(AND FORGIVE US NOT THEM FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS)

13'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.']
(DO NOT LEAD US INTO TEMPTATION NOT DO NOT LEAD THEM INTO>.DELIVER US FROM EVIL NOT ME OR JUST THEM FOR YOUR YOURS IS THE KINGDOM NOT MINE BUT YOURS)

AMen

He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39

Haan Why is he praying out loud and why is he Even asking If he is God then shouldnt he ask himself oh wait hes the son so why is he asking out loud and he fell on his face HE BOWED like Muslims do Weird aint it?????

35 He went a little farther, and fell on the ground, and prayed that if it were possible, the hour might pass from Him. Mark 14:35

AGAIN on the ground praying and asking why does he have to ask???? and on top of that out loud if the father were literally in him and him literally in the father cant the father hear his thoughts????

Now it came to pass, as He was praying in a certain place (Luke11:1)

9and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me."

10Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written,
'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'" (DEUT 6:4)
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,[a] Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'"
Matthew 4:10

Get what I mean who is he talking about himself or God when satan asked him to Bow he was Quoting mark 12:29 and deutr 6:4 what Was written in the law???

1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,
2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe,[a]that observe and do,. Matthew 23:1-3

8 Also the swine is unclean for you, because it has cloven hooves,
yet does not chew the cud; you shall not eat their flesh or touch their dead carcasses. Deuteronomy 14:8

On the other hand the Christians eat the swine, therfore Jesus is not a Christian.

1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves;
neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves;
nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it;
for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 26:1

21 "You shall not plant for yourself any tree, as a wooden image, near the altar which you build for yourself to the LORD your God. 22 You shall not set up a sacred pillar, which the LORD your God hates. Deuteronomy 16:21-22




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Psalm of David 84:5
Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage
As they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
Psalm 84:6

Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead

bakkata mubarakan wahudan lilAAalameena
Quran - 3:96
Behold, the first Temple ever set up for mankind was indeed the one at Bakkah: rich in blessing, and a [source of] guidance unto all the worlds,
full of clear messages. [It is] the place whereon Abraham once stood; and whoever enters it finds inner peace. Hence, pilgrimage unto the Temple is a duty owed to God by all people who are able to undertake it. And as for those who deny the truth - verily, God does not stand in need of anything in all the worlds.
Quran - 3:97

3:98
SAY: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth of God's messages, when God is witness to all that you do?"
Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you [endeavour to] bar those who have come to believe [in this divine writ] from the path of God by trying to make it appear crooked, when you yourselves bear witness [to its being straight]? For, God is not unaware of what you do."
3:99


1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
^^^^^^^^^^
Christ is come in the flesh begotten of Flesh (Mary PBUH) and if the spirit (Prophet) confeseth that he came in the Flesh........that Prophet (That sprirt is of God)

UNDENIABLE TRUTH UNDENIABLE PROOF

There is one Lord, one faith====== ONLY ONE GOD and NONE has the right to be worshiped except The One God

Read In the Name Of your Lord WHo created :) :) :)

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Quran - 5:75

19:16
And relate in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east.
19:17
She took to a barrier which separated her from them, so We sent Our spirit to her, and he took on the shape of a human in all similarity.
19:18
She said: "I seek refuge with the Almighty from you if you are a person of faith."
19:19
He said: "I am the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son."
19:20
She said: "How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such"
19:21
He said: "It is such that your Lord has said,
it is easy for Me. And We shall make him a sign for mankind and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already ordained." (refer to 19:35 and 3:59 below)
19:22
So she was pregnant with him, and she went to deliver in a far place.
19:23
Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said: "I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!"
19:24
But then he called to her from beneath her: "Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream."
19:25
"And shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you."
19:26
"So eat and drink and be happy. If you see any human being, then Say: "I have declared a fast for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any of mankind.""
19:27
Then she came to her people carrying him. They said: "O Mary, you have come with something totally unexpected!"
19:28
"O sister of Aaron, your father was not a bad man, and your mother was never unchaste!"
19:29
So she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle"
19:30
He said: "I am God's servant, He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
19:31
"And He made me blessed wherever I was, and He charged me with the contact-method and towards betterment as long as I am alive."
19:32
"And to be dutiful to my mother, and He did not make me a rebellious tyrant."
19:33
"And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I am resurrected alive."
19:34
Such was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of the matter in which they doubt.
19:35
God was never to take a son, be He glorified.

If He decrees a matter, then He simply says to it: "Be," and it is.

19:36
And God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him. This is a straight path.
19:37
So the parties disputed between them. Therefore, woe to those who have rejected from the scene of a terrible Day.

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
3:59

Say: "O followers of the Bible! You have no valid ground for your beliefs -unless you [truly] observe the Torah and the Gospel, and all that has been bestowed from on high upon you by your Sustainer!" Yet all that has been bestowed from on high upon thee [O Prophet] by thy Sustainer is bound to make many of them yet more stubborn in their overweening arrogance and in their denial of the truth. But sorrow not over people who deny the truth:
Quran - 5:68
for, verily, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Sabians, and the Christians - all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds - no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.

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Take your Time and read....... Break down everything everything from this I will be patient for your reply read the whole thing once before you start breaking it Down..... i would like you to back up everything you say with websites given below in multi translations of the bible as well ++++++++++++++ as the original greek version of the verses I would greatly appreciate both without beating around the bush and misqouting i repeat the parrallel translations of the verses ++++++++the word by word Greek version of the text
"try and keep it within matthew mark Luke and John" if you wish to use the un orginal non cannon four back up with the with the
original four and when your Qouting verses dont use them out of context i would like the first three verses and three verses after every verse you qoute with refrences of which book which chapter the word by word refrence websites are in the other msg You say you Love me right as a brother then you will not conceal or hide anything this is not about ego or pride this is us coming to common terms if God wills

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Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
Quran - 16:125

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
Quran - 2:256

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Quran - 21:18

If the followers of the Bible would but attain to [true] faith and God-consciousness, We should indeed efface their [previous] bad deeds, and indeed bring them into gardens of bliss;and if they would but truly observe the Torah and the Gospel and all [the revelation] that has been bestowed from on high upon them by their Sustainer, they would indeed partake of all the blessings of heaven and earth. Some of them do pursue a right course; but as for most of them -vile indeed is what they do!
Quran - 5:65-66

Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." And if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Quran - 3:64

Say: "O followers of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs; and do not follow the errant views of people who have gone astray aforetime, and have led many [others] astray, and are still straying from the right path."
Quran - 5:77
THOSE of the children of Israel who were bent on denying the truth have [already] been cursed by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary? this, because they rebelled [against God] and persisted in transgressing the bounds of what is right.

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority.
Quran - 4:153

Biblical illiteracy ELLA stands for God Elohim in the Hebrew language is plural or respects allah stands for God Allahim is plural of respects its the genius of the arabic and hebrew languages but your so called "biblical literate" have associtated that as ascribing Divine partners to the one God ask any jewish rabbi or any arab christian Or an Arab
"We" is Majestic a term Used for 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

See you Dont mention
John 3:6
where Flesh gives birth to only Flesh and spirit Gives birth to only spirit
If you look at the original greek it uses the word begotten
http://biblos.com/john/3-6.htm
So flesh can ONLY give birth to flesh
Meaning God is not Flesh

So He Cant Beget Flesh according to your Bible The original 4 in cannon

John 3:16
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only
begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But Jesus Was not The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE WORLD DAVID WAS THE FIRST BEGOTTEN ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE CLEAR CONTRADICTION

Psalm of David 2:7
I will declare the decree:
the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art]
my Son; this day have
I begotten thee.

Seeeeeeeeeee I dont Get it to You so contradiction and God is not the author of Contractions so John 3:16 is OUTTTTTTTTT fabrication

What I seeeee is a prophecy of the Messiah, to be made in the lineage of David, just as it is confirmed in the Gospel.

Act 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."
verb (used with object), be·got or ( Archaic ) be·gat; be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.
(esp. of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
spawn, sire, breed, father

Are you serious???????? Get it now

Indeed I do. http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=55.0

Matthew 5:Jesus saying
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19"Whoever then breaks one of the
least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same,
shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;
but whoever keeps and teaches them,
he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mark 12:28,29,30
And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him,
"Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Jesus answered,
"The most important is,
'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

So why do you keep pretending that Christians believe in more than one God?

And you shall love the Lord your God
with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind and with all your strength.

Shema — listen, or hear & do
Yisrael — Israel, in the sense of the people or congregation of Israel
Adonai — often translated as "Lord"
Eloheinu — our God, the word "El" or "Eloh" signifying God
---------> This word Ehad and the Arabic Word Ahad down below
Eḥad — the Hebrew word for the number 1, which has the dual meaning "one" and "alone", its root is also "unique"

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one

In the Name Of God most Gracious Most Merciful
112:1 Qul huwa Allahu ahad'un'
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."

The Most important Is God Is ONE and ONLY ONE jesus said this Are you breaking the commandments by saying God Has A partner a Begotten Son

No, since God Himself declared it. You choose to reject the Gospel to see YHWH through the child-like imagination of a 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller. I choose the 1600 year record of the inspired Word of God through ALL of His prophets, Apostles and witnesses.

Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is MY BELOVED SON , in whom I am well pleased.
Mar 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased.
Luk 3:22 ...and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art MY BELOVED SON; in thee I am well pleased.   
2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased.

BLASPHEMY jesus said He will be called the least in the kingdom
Do the Will of God only worship One God Who is my God and Your God


God Is Spirit So AccorDing to your Bible (not me) How can He beget flesh
Keep reading

But Jesus is Flesh and blood was Born of Flesh and Blood = VIRGIN mary

2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
See you guys say he is God But Jesus is Flesh and God is God and flesh Begets Flesh sooo keep reading

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1

Paul says Jesus is God but God is Spirit and Jesus Is flesh So according to John 3:6 God did not Beget jesus and That is Blasphemy

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."
And [both] the Jews and the Christians say, "We are God's children, and His beloved ones." Say: "Why, then, does He cause you to suffer for your sins? Nay, you are but human beings of His creating. He forgives whom He wills, and He causes to suffer whom He wills: for God's is the dominion over the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and with Him is all journeys' end.
O followers of the Bible! Now, after a long time during which no apostles have appeared, there has come unto you [this] Our Apostle to make [the truth] clear to you, lest you say, "No bearer of glad tidings has come unto us, nor any warner ": for now there has come unto you a bearer of glad tidings and a warner -since God has the power to will anything.


Let's See how Paul deceives Timothy
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23
Are you serious Wine even a little Dude wine is not the same as it was back then it was strongf ........

Where did you get this? From your uncle? See how you say things with absolutely no evidence whatsoever? But you have to in order to follow Mohammed. Sorry, but wine cannot exceed 18% alcohol because yeast cannot survive in a higher content than that. Did you happen to notice the word "little"? Of course not. You prefer to spew blasphemy.

........ and Got people Drunk is this his advice alcohol is the No.1 abused substance in america its the Cause of death fights divorces rape abuse and what not Seriously advising wine???????

1 Corinthians 15:50
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
^^^^^^^ This Came After Matthew Mark Luke And John So I Guess Contradicts Alot doesnt it and is a fabrication !!!!!!!!!!!

So Jesus Cannot Enter the Kingdom REALLLLLLLYYYYY
Fabricationnnnnnnnnnnn and contradiction of Paul Paul

Quran - 4:82
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions.
Quran - 4:82


God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:24
http://interlinearbible.org/john/4-24.htm
You SEEEEEEE READDDDDD


Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world's viewpoint, and the world listens to them.
1 John 4:5
We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:6

Paul to timothy HIS ADVICE no more water but a lil wine for .......
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul was never a disciple he never saw Jesus in the flesh he saw a Ghost in the Sky when he was on his way to Persecuting Christians
who referred to himself as the "Apostle to the Gentiles" or nations in Greek. [Rom 11:13]
Thirteen epistles, or letters, in the New Testament are attributed to Paul
Paul confesses to having "violently persecuted" the "church of God" prior to his conversion.[15>
There is no explicit written record that Paul had known Jesus personally prior to the Crucifixion yet it is unlikely that he was not well aware of Jesus' ministry or his trial before the Chief Priest.[citation needed]
Paul asserted that he received the Gospel not from any person, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.[Gal. 1:11--12].
Paul also mentions that even Barnabas (his traveling companion and fellow apostle until that time) sided with Peter.
"Barnabas Calls Paul a Deceiver in his Gospel of Barnabas----- Muhammad wasn't born neither could he read or write and Gospel of Barnabas was Considered in Nissan in 325 AC so How can it be a muslim Fabrication when the pope took a copy in 378 AC for himself then lended it out????

In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.
In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450.) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.
Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.

Introduction By Saint Barnabas WHO KNEW PAUL AS YOU READ

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth desireth peace and consolation.

"Dearly beloved the great and wonderful God hath during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, by reason whereof many, being deceived of Satan, under presence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul hath been deceived, whereof I speak not without grief; for which cause I am writing that truth which I have seen and heard, in the intercourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that ye may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgment of God. Therefore beware of every one that preacheth unto you new doctrine contrary to that which I write, that ye may be saved eternally.

The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and and from every evil. Amen. "

Chapter 1. Gospel of Barnabas

This also from the 16th century Mohammedan forgery of the GoB.

    'Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called?" {Jesus answered} "Muhammed is his blessed name" ' (ch. 97)[52]

    Jesus confessed, and said the truth: "I am not the Messiah." (ch. 42:2)[53]
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=465.0

But Jesus said:
Matthew 10:5,6
These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: "Do not
go in the way of the Gentiles, and
do not
enter any city of the Samaritans;
but
only to the people of Israel--God's lost sheep.
Matthew 10:5,6

further proof when a gentile needs help this is what Jesus says:
Matthew 15:23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent
only
to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Matthew 15:24

Paul a apostle to the gentiles is a Lie because Jesus said dont take my message to the Gentiles it is ONLY ONLY ONLY for the lost sheep of israel........

That's why He said He was sent, but is that where His ministry ended? Is that the last verse in the Gospel?

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"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
John 14:26

Remember pauls advice is False its breaking a commandment but THE HELPER WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS and remembrance all that I I I (JESUS) said to you

Quran
[And,] lo, the white-garbed ones said: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Could thy Sustainer send down unto us a repast from heaven?" [Jesus] answered: "Be conscious of God, if you are [truly] believers!"
NOW WHEN Jesus came [to his people] with all evidence of the truth, he said: "I have now come unto you with wisdom, and to make clear Unto you some of that on which you are at variance: hence, be conscious of God, and pay heed unto me.
And [this happened, too,] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O children of Israel! Behold, I am an apostle of God unto you, [sent] to confirm the truth of whatever there still remains of the Torah, and to give [you] the glad tiding of an apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he [whose coming Jesus had foretold] came unto them with all evidence of the truth, they said: "This [alleged message of his] is [nothing but] spellbinding eloquence!"
Quran - 61:6 Quran - 43:63

Quran - 5:90
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.
Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
Quran - 5:91

"But I will send you the Advocate--the Spirit of truth. He will come to you from the Father and will testify all about me.
John 15:26

Read Below the Story of Mary PBUH and Jesus PBUH

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes,
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
"All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
John 16:12,13,14,15

Quran
Lo! God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember the blessings which I bestowed upon thee and thy mother-how I strengthened thee with holy inspiration, so that thou couldst speak unto men in thy cradle, and as a grown man; and how I imparted unto thee revelation and wisdom, including the Torah and the Gospel; and how by My leave thou didst create out of clay, as it were, the shape of [thy followers'] destiny, and then didst breathe into it, so that it might become, by My leave, [their] destiny; and how thou didst heal the blind and the leper by My leave, and how thou didst raise the dead by My leave; and how I prevented the children of Israel from harming thee when thou camest unto them with all evidence of the truth, and [when] those of them who were bent on denying the truth were saying, `This is clearly nothing but deception!"'
5:110

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away;
for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;
concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
John 16:9


Doesn't it ever strike you as weird to reject the very same book you try to defend Mohammed with?
Why all the foolish presumption when you already quoted the answer?

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 [Even] THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom THE WORLD cannot receive, because it SEETH HIM NOT, neither knoweth him: but YE KNOW HIM; for he DWELLETH WITH YOU, and SHALL BE IN YOU.

Are we to believe that the world "seeth him not" perhaps because Mohammed wasn't going to be born for 500 years?
That the apostles "knew" Mohammed?
That Mohammed "dwelleth with" the Apostles 500 years before he was born?
That Mohammed was going to be IN THE APOSTLES?

You already even quoted who the Comforter is.

John 14:26 But THE COMFORTER, [which is] THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The truth is unambiguous but you prefer lies, because you follow the father of lies through his false prophet Mohammed.

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2010, 08:48:16 AM »
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NOW your probably like the "holy spirit" the "holy ghost" right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul says he had it But was in grave error and lied as i told you above
1 Corinthians 11: Paul Talking on Christian Order
6 For if a woman does not cover her head,
let her also have her hair cut off;
but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved,
she should cover her head.

Wait a minute lets read Further yet another contradiction
"A SPIRIT OF ERROR" Indeed and his epistles PROVE IT (Most women in that Time even today in those areas have long hair) (Men are more attracted to women with Long Hair <---fact)
Paul doesn't specify which hair for women should be covered "DOES HE" If a woman does not cover her head.........thats all he says

is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
1 cor 11:13 part

>--------------------->>>>>contradiction is a few verses later

1 Corinthians 11:
15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

1 Corinthians 14:34
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says

1 Corinthians 11:10
For this reason, and because the angels are watching, a woman should wear a covering on her head to show she is under authority.""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Hair in itself is "NOT" a covering you remember what you said to me
A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God's image and reflects God's glory. And woman reflects man's glory.
1 Corinthians 11:7

So it explains hair yes hair Long short thin black brown white should Be covered on a woman GET IT NOW SPIRIT OF ERRORRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
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for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
THAT MEANS IF JESUS DOESNT GO THE HELPER WILL NOT COME = AFTER JESUS But wait a minute the Holy spirit/Holy ghost was already here even Before Jesus Read John was born Before right JOHN WAS BORN BEFORE JESUS

But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zacharias,
for your petition has been heard,
and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son,
and you will give him the name John.
"You will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth.
"For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and
he will be filled with
the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb.
Luke 1:13,14,15

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb;
and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:41
And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit,
and prophesied, saying:
Luke 1:67
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit,
returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness
Luke 4:1
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
Luke 10:21

So this Ghost or Spirit was Before Jesus but spirit of truth MANAKHMAH = comforter, helper, or advocate is suppose to be another after him another Person HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM HIM
Jesus uses all masculine pronouns no other paragraph in the new testament is like this in 3 consecutive chapters

The Holy Spirit is assigned the male gender because it is God's Spirit. All God. Yet the poor fellow goes on and on with foolish presumption in spite of the plain language of the verses in the post above. We have to feel sorry for his desperation to believe that Mohammed's religion doesn't stand alone.

John 14:16-17
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you
another Counselor to be with you forever--
that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

"I have many more things to say to you,
but you cannot bear them now.
"But when He,
the Spirit of truth, comes,(when he comes later not already exsisting Spirit in LUKE CHP)
He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.

for He will not speak on His own initiative,
but whatever He hears,
He will speak
The Holy Quran via Prophet Muhammad ---dictated via Angel Jibraeel FROM GOD FROM THE ONE AND ONLY GOD ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)

and He will disclose to you what is to come
"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
(He will Take what jesus said, jesus said unto them, jesus replied, jesus commanded, etc etc and diclose it to you)
The world cannot receive becauseeeeeeeeeeee it because it does not see
HIM NO PICTURE OF MUHAMMAD HE WAS ONLY IN ARABIA NOT EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD NEITHER DOES THE WORLD KNOW HIM PERSONALLY
Because He abides with you in the memorized verses of the HOLY QURAN AND it WILL BE WITH YOU FOREVER many people memorize the Holy quran MANY MANY MANY people within 6 mnths to a year memorize the WHole Book it is easily memorized -------who memorizes the whole entire BIBLE in that amount of time maybe a few people but not millions of people .... the Quran is memorized by millions and it dwells with them the lessons the teaching the commands of The one GOD {ELLA (ALLAH, ELOH, ELOHIM, ALLAHA, ILLAHI, ELLI, ELLA)}

1 John 4:2
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that
Jesus is Christ (greek Kristos=annointed one the messiah, arabic + aramaic Massih= Messiah) has come
in the flesh is of God: (A prophet a messenger of God OF GOD OF OF OF)
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the
flesh is from God; (Like The Quran IS FROM FROM FROM GOD)
http://interlinearbible.org/1_john/4-2.htm
This is the website------->>>>>
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1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not
of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

and even now already is it already in the world. this is the epistle of John written after Gospel According to John EVEN NOW ALREADY IN THE WORLD

That's right. So we don't need to concern ourselves with Mohammedan fiction about some future bogeyman. That foul spirit has been around ever since the first century when John wrote about it. Here is how we can identify that foul spirit.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

So in the Epistle of John ^^^^^^^ it was now already in the World Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born 600 years after Jesus .........

Which makes Mohammed just another antichrist. Just like you!

....... PBUH BUT PAUL WASNT BUT PAUL WASNT BORN 600 YEARS AFTER JESUS remember what Barnabas said in his Banned Gospel

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Psalm of David 84:5
Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage
As they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
Psalm 84:6

Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead

Poor fellow. Since when is Mecca Zion?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1236.0

bakkata mubarakan wahudan lilAAalameena
Quran - 3:96
Behold, the first Temple ever set up for mankind was indeed the one at Bakkah: rich in blessing, and a [source of] guidance unto all the worlds,
full of clear messages. [It is] the place whereon Abraham once stood; and whoever enters it finds inner peace. Hence, pilgrimage unto the Temple is a duty owed to God by all people who are able to undertake it. And as for those who deny the truth - verily, God does not stand in need of anything in all the worlds.
Quran - 3:97

3:98
SAY: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth of God's messages, when God is witness to all that you do?"
Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you [endeavour to] bar those who have come to believe [in this divine writ] from the path of God by trying to make it appear crooked, when you yourselves bear witness [to its being straight]? For, God is not unaware of what you do."
3:99


1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
^^^^^^^^^^
Christ is come in the flesh begotten of Flesh (Mary PBUH) and if the spirit (Prophet) confeseth that he came in the Flesh........that Prophet (That sprirt is of God)

UNDENIABLE TRUTH UNDENIABLE PROOF

Sheer nonsense. You cite a test of SPIRITS then pretend it is a test of persons, even prophets. The same lie your uncle told over and over.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=335.0
Yet for some reason you keep ignoring the test of PERSONS from the very same Epistle.

There is one Lord, one faith====== ONLY ONE GOD and NONE has the right to be worshiped except The One God

Read In the Name Of your Lord WHo created :) :) :)

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Quran - 5:75

19:16
And relate in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east.
19:17
She took to a barrier which separated her from them, so We sent Our spirit to her, and he took on the shape of a human in all similarity.
19:18
She said: "I seek refuge with the Almighty from you if you are a person of faith."
19:19
He said: "I am the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son."
19:20
She said: "How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such"
19:21
He said: "It is such that your Lord has said,
it is easy for Me. And We shall make him a sign for mankind and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already ordained." (refer to 19:35 and 3:59 below)
19:22
So she was pregnant with him, and she went to deliver in a far place.
19:23
Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said: "I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!"
19:24
But then he called to her from beneath her: "Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream."
19:25
"And shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you."
19:26
"So eat and drink and be happy. If you see any human being, then Say: "I have declared a fast for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any of mankind.""
19:27
Then she came to her people carrying him. They said: "O Mary, you have come with something totally unexpected!"
19:28
"O sister of Aaron, your father was not a bad man, and your mother was never unchaste!"
19:29
So she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle"
19:30
He said: "I am God's servant, He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
19:31
"And He made me blessed wherever I was, and He charged me with the contact-method and towards betterment as long as I am alive."
19:32
"And to be dutiful to my mother, and He did not make me a rebellious tyrant."
19:33
"And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I am resurrected alive."
19:34
Such was Jesus, the son of Mary, and this is the truth of the matter in which they doubt.
19:35
God was never to take a son, be He glorified.

If He decrees a matter, then He simply says to it: "Be," and it is.

19:36
And God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him. This is a straight path.
19:37
So the parties disputed between them. Therefore, woe to those who have rejected from the scene of a terrible Day.

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
3:59

Say: "O followers of the Bible! You have no valid ground for your beliefs -unless you [truly] observe the Torah and the Gospel, and all that has been bestowed from on high upon you by your Sustainer!" Yet all that has been bestowed from on high upon thee [O Prophet] by thy Sustainer is bound to make many of them yet more stubborn in their overweening arrogance and in their denial of the truth. But sorrow not over people who deny the truth:
Quran - 5:68
for, verily, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Sabians, and the Christians - all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds - no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2010, 10:08:25 AM »
Take your Time and read Break down everything everything from this I will be patient for your reply read the whole thing once before you start breaking it Down i want you to back up everything you say with websites given below in multi translations of the bible as well as the original greek version of the verses "try and keep it within matthew mark Luke and John" but if you wish to use the un orginal four back up the info with the original four and when your Qouting verses dont use them out of context i would like the first three verses and three verses after every verse you qoute with refrences of which book which chapter the word by word refrence websites are below You say you Love me right as a brother then you will not conceal or hide anything this is not about ego or pride this is us coming to common terms if God wills

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
Quran - 16:125

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
Quran - 2:256

That verse from before the Islamic calendar begins, as you are likely well aware, is abrogated by roughly 100 verses that suggest violence against God's people.

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=116.0

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Quran - 21:18

If the followers of the Bible would but attain to [true] faith and God-consciousness, We should indeed efface their [previous] bad deeds, and indeed bring them into gardens of bliss;and if they would but truly observe the Torah and the Gospel and all [the revelation] that has been bestowed from on high upon them by their Sustainer, they would indeed partake of all the blessings of heaven and earth. Some of them do pursue a right course; but as for most of them -vile indeed is what they do!
Quran - 5:65-66

Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." And if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Quran - 3:64

Say: "O followers of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs; and do not follow the errant views of people who have gone astray aforetime, and have led many [others] astray, and are still straying from the right path."
Quran - 5:77
THOSE of the children of Israel who were bent on denying the truth have [already] been cursed by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary? this, because they rebelled [against God] and persisted in transgressing the bounds of what is right.

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority.
Quran - 4:153

Biblical illiteracy ELLA stands for God in the Hebrew language is plural or respects allah stands for God ......

Elohim is a TERM that can mean God or god, it is a substitute replacement used for the NAME YHWH because a man-made doctrine spread that it was wrong to speak or use the name YHWH because it was too sacred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton#In_later_Judaism

"Allah" is the name of the pagan Arabian moon god.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1240.0

...... Allahim is plural of respects its the genius of the arabic and hebrew languages but your so called "biblical literate" have associtated that as ascribing Divine partners to the one God ask any jewish rabbi ........

There is good reason you seek out and find comfort with those that can't yet see that Jesus is their Messiah.

........ or any arab christian Or an Arab
"We" is Majestic a term Used for 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

See you Dont mention
John 3:6
where Flesh gives birth to only Flesh and spirit Gives birth to only spirit
If you look at the original greek it uses the word begotten
http://biblos.com/john/3-6.htm
So flesh can ONLY give birth to flesh
Meaning God is not Flesh

So He Cant Beget Flesh according to your Bible The original 4 in cannon

John 3:16
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only
begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But Jesus Was not The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE WORLD DAVID WAS THE FIRST BEGOTTEN ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE CLEAR CONTRADICTION

Psalm of David 2:7
I will declare the decree:
the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art]
my Son; this day have
I begotten thee.

Seeeeeeeeeee I dont Get it to You so contradiction and God is not the author of Contractions so John 3:16 is OUTTTTTTTTT fabrication

The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."
verb (used with object), be·got or ( Archaic ) be·gat; be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.
(esp. of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
spawn, sire, breed, father

Are you serious???????? Get it now

Matthew 5:Jesus saying
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19"Whoever then breaks one of the
least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same,
shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;
but whoever keeps and teaches them,
he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mark 12:28,29,30
And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him,
"Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Jesus answered,
"The most important is,
'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
And you shall love the Lord your God
with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind and with all your strength.

Shema — listen, or hear & do
Yisrael — Israel, in the sense of the people or congregation of Israel
Adonai — often translated as "Lord"
Eloheinu — our God, the word "El" or "Eloh" signifying God
---------> This word Ehad and the Arabic Word Ahad down below
Eḥad — the Hebrew word for the number 1, which has the dual meaning "one" and "alone", its root is also "unique"

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one

In the Name Of God most Gracious Most Merciful
112:1 Qul huwa Allahu ahad'un'
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."

The Most important Is God Is ONE and ONLY ONE jesus said this Are you breaking the commandments by saying God Has A partner a Begotten Son
BLASPHEMY jesus said He will be called the least in the kingdom
Do the Will of God only worship One God Who is my God and Your God


God Is Spirit So AccorDing to your Bible (not me) How can He beget flesh
Keep reading

But Jesus is Flesh and blood was Born of Flesh and Blood = VIRGIN mary

2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
See you guys say he is God But Jesus is Flesh and God is God and flesh Begets Flesh sooo keep reading

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1

Paul says Jesus is God but God is Spirit and Jesus Is flesh So according to John 3:6 God did not Beget jesus and That is Blasphemy

In the Name Of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."
And [both] the Jews and the Christians say, "We are God's children, and His beloved ones." Say: "Why, then, does He cause you to suffer for your sins? Nay, you are but human beings of His creating. He forgives whom He wills, and He causes to suffer whom He wills: for God's is the dominion over the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and with Him is all journeys' end.
O followers of the Bible! Now, after a long time during which no apostles have appeared, there has come unto you [this] Our Apostle to make [the truth] clear to you, lest you say, "No bearer of glad tidings has come unto us, nor any warner ": for now there has come unto you a bearer of glad tidings and a warner -since God has the power to will anything.


Let's See how Paul deceives Timothy
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23
Are you serious Wine even a little Dude wine is not the same as it was back then it was strong and Got people Drunk is this his advice alcohol is the No.1 abused substance in america its the Cause of death fights divorces rape abuse and what not Seriously advising wine???????

1 Corinthians 15:50
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
^^^^^^^ This Came After Matthew Mark Luke And John So I Guess Contradicts Alot doesnt it and is a fabrication !!!!!!!!!!!

So Jesus Cannot Enter the Kingdom REALLLLLLLYYYYY
Fabricationnnnnnnnnnnn and contradiction of Paul Paul

Quran - 4:82
Why do they not study the Quran carefully? If it were from other than GOD, they would have found in it numerous contradictions.
Quran - 4:82


God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:24
http://interlinearbible.org/john/4-24.htm
You SEEEEEEE READDDDDD


Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world's viewpoint, and the world listens to them.
1 John 4:5
We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:6

Paul to timothy HIS ADVICE no more water but a lil wine for .......
No longer drink only water, but Drink a little wine
1 Timothy 5:23

Here is the Spirit of ERROR who made is All Happen
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul was never a disciple he never saw Jesus in the flesh he saw a Ghost in the Sky when he was on his way to Persecuting Christians
who referred to himself as the "Apostle to the Gentiles" or nations in Greek. [Rom 11:13]
Thirteen epistles, or letters, in the New Testament are attributed to Paul
Paul confesses to having "violently persecuted" the "church of God" prior to his conversion.[15>
There is no explicit written record that Paul had known Jesus personally prior to the Crucifixion yet it is unlikely that he was not well aware of Jesus' ministry or his trial before the Chief Priest.[citation needed]
Paul asserted that he received the Gospel not from any person, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.[Gal. 1:11--12].
Paul also mentions that even Barnabas (his traveling companion and fellow apostle until that time) sided with Peter.
"Barnabas Calls Paul a Deceiver in his Gospel of Barnabas----- Muhammad wasn't born neither could he read or write and Gospel of Barnabas was Considered in Nissan in 325 AC so How can it be a muslim Fabrication when the pope took a copy in 378 AC for himself then lended it out????

In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.
In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450.) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.
Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.

Introduction By Saint Barnabas WHO KNEW PAUL AS YOU READ

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth desireth peace and consolation.

"Dearly beloved the great and wonderful God hath during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, by reason whereof many, being deceived of Satan, under presence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul hath been deceived, whereof I speak not without grief; for which cause I am writing that truth which I have seen and heard, in the intercourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that ye may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgment of God. Therefore beware of every one that preacheth unto you new doctrine contrary to that which I write, that ye may be saved eternally.

The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and and from every evil. Amen. "

Chapter 1. Gospel of Barnabas

But Jesus said:
Matthew 10:5,6
These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: "Do not
go in the way of the Gentiles, and
do not
enter any city of the Samaritans;
but
only to the people of Israel--God's lost sheep.
Matthew 10:5,6

further proof when a gentile needs help this is what Jesus says:
Matthew 15:23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent
only
to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Matthew 15:24

Paul a apostle to the gentiles is a Lie because Jesus said dont take my message to the Gentiles it is ONLY ONLY ONLY for the lost sheep of israel........

O FOLLOWERS of earlier revelation! Why do you argue about Abraham, seeing that the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till [long] after him? Will you not, then, use your reason?
Lo! You are the ones who would argue about that which is known to you; but why do you argue about something which is unknown to you? Yet God knows [it], whereas you do not know:
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith.
Quran - 3:65-68


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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2010, 08:50:08 AM »
First of all i knew you would divert the conversation but Running and disappearing was on my list as well :) answer the whole post with Greek and parrallel translations which you have not done as of yet in the mean time here is the reply:


"""""An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact."""""""

Are you serious? first of all Lets get some facts straight it was 623 years after NOT 500.............the whole subject of the gospel according to maybe maybe not matthew mark luke and john and paul is not about the supoosed "death" of Jesus "It was Made to appear to them so" what man who cant read or write with out a translation of the bible in arabic can write such claims WHO can you do it have you met a man who cant read or write have you ever met someone like that plz tell me........yes there were Christians in the area at the Time but cmon for a man to orate such verses is impossible you cant even write a single chapter from it CAN YOU????
The first arabic bible was available in the 9th century 3 CENTURIES after the prophet muhammad PBUH yes or no plz tell me the man couldnt read his own language none the less read Greek that's what puzzled the people of the book how is he orating scripture without being learned....................

"""""I can only consider you as a brother in the secular human sense, as a brother in humanity, the way I would also consider an agnostic or atheist.
My brethren are in Christ Jesus. You are antichrist.'''''''

You and me are gentiles you european me asian arent we all from the seed of adam ie the seed of noah Brothers of humanity my friend or brothers of the Abrhamic monotheistic Faith and to compare me to an atheist is very insulting but ill take it for God says to forgive and overlook.......your brothers are in jesus christ then embrace all brands and denominations of the Christiandom even the catholics right Either way i cant help loving my fellow mankind For God is most Kind to everyone and has shown me too much love for me to show abhor ant distaste for anyone!!!!!!!!


In What way am I the anti christ = anti Messiah? that is literally incorrect and a false statement anti means the opposite or to oppose and messiah is one who is anointed we Believe in the Messiah Just not Exactly the same way you do and you know that "tell me plz where does the Quran insult Jesus son of man....... his personality his virgin birth his miracles by God his instructions and teachings his character where what Muslim insults Jesus PBUH
who insults him or blasphemes him cuz the second any of them do they need to proclaim there vows of faith again
there is NO other gods Beside God
I bear witness as a muslim i believe in all the angels, the original Torah, the orginal Gospel of jesus, the Psalms aka zaboor of David and the final testament the Holy Quran
I bear witness as a muslim that i believe in the prophets and messengers of God
i believe in the last day the day of judgement and LIFE after Death
proclmation of faith


"""""""I am not like you. Truth is what matters most to me. If my uncle had corrected himself after such a huge and important mistake/deception, I would make and upload a YouTube correcting it, rather than keeping it a secret.""""""""

Did you post my previous message on your Forum all of it without blemish YES OR NO.....if truth is all that matters to you then Y would you insult a Deciest man like the babylonian talmudists............most certainly you are definitely not like me neither am i like you.........

""""""""Coming to common terms is an impossibility. Let's explore THE CORE of our understanding to see exactly why, rather than you trying to run and hide, in a copy and pasted blizzard of Greek sophist styled foolishness""""""""

Copy and pasted Cause I dont like to misqoute or mis refrence or add and delete as your scholars do neither would i like to misinterpret whats left of the Holy Injeel in the gospel ACCORDING TO matthew mark luke and john.....

"""""""Conversations tend to develop in the same predictable pattern with you guys.
But you are only fooling yourself, my friend, even citing the gospel of Barnabas again after I exposed it for you as the 16th century Mohammedan forgery that it demonstrates itself to be. Most YouTube Muslims seem to have been embarrassed enough by it, to have learned better than to cite that nonsense, wherein Jesus declares that Mohammed was the Messiah, and not Jesus.""""""""""

In the previous message my "blizzard of Copy paste" you never replied neither have you answered in detail with references with parrallel translations + + + the original greek sophist if you with to call it that ++++++++ word by word translations of the verses............. Mohammadan is an archaic term the knights templar who deviated from christianity after defeating muslims used to call us -----meaning worshippers of muhammad i Guess guilty of that very crime which was being done to jesus they wanted to slander and point fingers at the muslims then the knights aka crusaders started worshipping baphomet lol lol who is Satan himself so your going to refer to me as what the satan worshipers referred to me as then be my Guest itll just make me question your purposes....you exposed the gospel of barnabas???? really you did where with what FACTUAL HISTORICAL evidences did you expose the banned Gospel of Barnabas HAVE YOU EVEN EVER READ IT i guess the quran and Gospel of barnabas are on your check list for summer reading now...........Muhammad was NOT the messiah and Neither did he claim to be neither did God appoint him as that...........i am a strict Monotheist and WOrship God alone with no partners by the way so plz refer to my faith as mozlem moozlum or muslim which means submitter to the will of the ONE God.......


"""""If you had ever read the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you would understand that there is only a single concept that you most need to concern yourself with, and THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT or misunderstanding between Christians and Mohammedans, in our RESPECTIVE understanding of it. You can set all the rest of your Greek sophist styled nonsense and felonious effort at MISunderstanding aside. Nothing else matters.""""""

YOUR RIGHT BUTTTTTT IM NOT A MUHAMMADAN so my greek sophists is non sense cause you cant Do what I requested because in Fact no where you can proove your Claims if you did The Quran COmmands

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
Quran - 2:111

Nay - who is it that responds to the distressed when he calls out to Him, and who removes the ill [that caused the distress], and has made you inherit the earth? Could there be any divine power besides God? How seldom do you keep this in mind!
Nay - who is it that guides you in the midst of the deep darkness of land and sea, and sends forth the winds as a glad tiding of His coming grace? Could there be any divine power besides God? Sublimely exalted is God above anything to which men may ascribe a share in His divinity!
Nay - who is it that creates [all life] in the first instance, and then brings it forth anew? And who is it that provides you with sustenance out of heaven and earth? Could there be any divine power besides God? Say: "[If you think so,] produce your evidence - if you truly believe in your claim!"
Quran - 27

Where is your proof that Jesus Claimed Divinity "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE"
in what context is Jesus Saying that did you read plz NOT JUST THIS VERSE ALL THE VERSES IN THE PREVIOUS POST TAKE YOUR TIME IF YOU CAN otherwise You aren't true to your claims of Jesus being the Begotten Son of God!!!!

""""""""This single verse from the Quran exposes Mohammed's 7th century religion as being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel - no matter what translation you use. This verse from Mohammed's religion shows those of us that follow Jesus Christ - the Messiah - that Mohammedanism was necessarily inspired by a jealous fallen angel named Satan (even Mohammed was convinced it was jinn that met him in that cave""""""""

It makes me really sad that you Mock and ridicule yet I ask the Quran and It answers all Glory Belongs to God!!!!!!

In the name of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
81:19 behold, this [divine writ] is indeed the [inspired] word of a noble apostle,
81:20 with strength endowed, secure with Him who in almightiness is enthroned
81:21 [the word] of one to be heeded, and worthy of trust!
81:22 For, this fellow-man of yours is not a madman:
81:23 he truly beheld [the angel - beheld] him on the clear horizon;
81:24 and he is not one to begrudge others the knowledge [of whatever has been revealed to him] out of that which is beyond the reach of human Perception.
81:25 Nor is this [message] the word of any satanic force accursed.
81:26 Whither, then, will you go?
81:27 This [message] is no less than a reminder to all mankind --
81:28 to everyone of you who wills to walk a straight way.
81:29 But you cannot will it unless God, the Sustainer of all the worlds, wills [to show you that way].


Hence, [be patient,] even though
they who are bent on denying the truth
would all but kill thee with their eyes whenever they hear this reminder,
and [though] they say,
"[As for Mubammad,] behold, most surely he is a madman!"
Quran - 68:51

How shall the message be (effectual) for them, seeing that an Messenger explaining things clearly has (already) come to them,-
Yet they turn away from him and say: "Tutored (by others), a man possessed!"

Say: "He is the Most Gracious: we have attained to faith in Him, and in Him have we placed our trust; and in time you will come to know which of us was lost in manifest error."
Say [unto those who deny the truth]: "What do you think? If of a sudden all your water were to vanish underground, who [but God] could provide you with water from [new] unsullied springs?"
Nun. CONSIDER the pen, and all that they write [therewith]!
Thou art not, by thy Sustainer's grace, a madman!
Quran - 68:2


"you wanna know what the was commanded to say to him from God On the Night of power"
The angel commanded him to IQRA' which means Read Proclaim or recite
In the Name of God Most gracious most merciful
96:1 Read in the name of your Lord who has created.
96:2 He created man from a clot.
96:3 Read, and your Lord is the Generous One.
96:4 The One who taught by the pen.
96:5 He taught man what he did not know.
96:6 Alas, man is bound to transgress.
96:7 When he achieves, he has no need.
96:8 To your Lord is the return.


A demons Job is to Misguide mislead from the Path of God
Read the Quran and Repent for that which you said for your own sake brother!!!!
:)

would a demon say such Words..... blasphemy indeed is what you say of that which you have no right to and NO ground substantial evidence to say-------but that doesnt stop any one of you does it....

""""""""""""""""""""""It cannot be any other way. There is no gray area.
ONE MUST CHOOSE between life or death.""""""""""""""""""""""""""'''''

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
""""""""An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact"""""""""""""""""""'

How could an unletterd man speak such verses and DEFEND !!!! WHO is defending here Plz dont say a demon man cmon


Qur'an 4:155-159 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
(They have incurred divine displeasure):
in that they broke their Covenant: that they rejected the Signs of Allah;
that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right;
that they said "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word; we need no more)";
nay Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy and little is it they believe.

That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge.
That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of Allah"; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so
it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not.

Nay Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness against them.

Qur'an 43:57-67 Surah Az-Zukhruf (Gold Adornments)
When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example behold thy people raise a clamor thereat (in ridicule)!

And they say " Are Our gods best or He?" This they set forth to thee only by way of disputation: yea they are a contentious people.

He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favor to him and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.

And if it were Our Will We could make angels from amongst you succeeding each other on the earth.

And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.

Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.

When Jesus came with Clear Signs he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me.

"For Allah; He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way."

But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement: then woe to the wrongdoers from the Penalty of a Grievous Day!

Do they only wait for the Hour that it should come on them all of a sudden while they perceive not?

Friends on that Day will be foes one to another except the Righteous.

---------------------------
WHo are these verses speaking to YOU AND ME YES but in Particular who You tell me then watch this clip a modern version for today!!!!!!
Its messed up what they did YAHYA john the baptist PBUH zakaria PBUH both of them and how they attacked them as well as Jesus PBUH it makes me really sad :(

Please watch this God Defends Jesus in that verse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU


Qur'an 5:112-115 Surah Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread)
Behold! the disciples said: "O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus: "Fear Allah if ye have faith."
They said: "We only wish to eat thereof and satisfy our hearts and to know that thou hast indeed told us the truth; and that we ourselves may be witnesses to the miracle.
Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! send us from heaven a table set (with viands) that there may be for us for the first and the last of us a solemn festival and a sign from Thee; and provide for our sustenance for Thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs).
Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: but if any of you after that resisteth faith I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on anyone among all the peoples.

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""You can spew blasphemy against Paul all you want my friend, but it will never change the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and the new covenant we are given through Yeshua, the Messiah. Even the Messiah's name "Yeshua", means YHWH saves, rescues or delivers. Please ask yourself, what does the Messiah deliver His sheep from?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Blasphemy????? really his contradictions and me calling them out blasphemy He was a murderer wanting to commit genocide of the christian nation persecuting them wherever he could find them Blasphemy
self proclaimed "apostle to the gentiles" when Jesus said dont take my message to the gentiles or the samaritans but to the lost sheep of children of Israel

What can I say man you havent even read the Book you "supposedly" exposed Gospel of Barnabas yet you passed judgement on it so swiftly without a trial!!!!!!!!!! Lets read what Paul the "self proclaimed apostle to the gentiles" who saw A GHOST of Jesus then started preaching Begotten son of God who Died for mankinds sins the man who was ONLY sent to the lost sheep of Israel and who commanded against that the message to the gentiles and samaritans

In his Epistle to the Colossians 4:10
Paul describes Barnabas thus: " . . . Barnabas, touching whom ye received commandments; if he comes unto you, receive him." Here Paul refers to commandments of Jesus.

the Epistle to the Galatians:
"And when James, Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship 2:9

"And Joses, who by the Apostles was surnamed Barnabas, which is, being interpreted, (The son of consolation), a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus." (Acts 4:36)

Paul was a Jew who was persecuting the Christians. He is said to have seen Jesus in a vision and to have become a convert to the creed of Jesus. Among the disciples of Jesus, Barnabas was a dynamic evangelist. Paul also became a preacher, with the difference that Paul began to over-praise and deify Jesus. "And straightaway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the son of God." (Acts 9: 20).

ACTS 9:26 and 27: "And when Saul ( Paul ) was come to Jerusalem he assayed to join himself to the disciples, but they were all afraid of him and believed not that he was a disciple. "But Barnabas took him and, brought him to the Apostles.
ACTS 11:22-30: "Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the Church which was in Jerusalem; and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

"Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: "And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
"And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
"And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the spirit that there should be great dearth throughout the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.



PLEASE ANSWER MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE THE WAY I REQUESTED IT TO BE IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL my BROTHER TRUST IS NOT BLIND AND NEITHER IS THE TRUTH WE SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH FIRST HAND ILL RESEND IT TO YOU!!!!
PEACE BE UPON YOU!!!!!!!!

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2010, 10:33:30 AM »
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Take your Time and read....... Break down everything everything from this I will be patient for your reply read the whole thing once before you start breaking it Down..... i would like you to back up everything you say with websites given below in multi translations of the bible as well ++++++++++++++ as the original greek version of the verses I would greatly appreciate both without beating around the bush and misqouting i repeat the parrallel translations of the verses ++++++++the word by word Greek version of the text
"try and keep it within matthew mark Luke and John" if you wish to use the un orginal non cannon four back up with the with the
original four and when your Qouting verses dont use them out of context i would like the first three verses and three verses after every verse you qoute with refrences of which book which chapter the word by word refrence websites are in the other msg You say you Love me right as a brother then you will not conceal or hide anything this is not about ego or pride this is us coming to common terms if God wills

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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2010, 10:34:26 AM »
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First of all i knew you would divert the conversation but Running and disappearing was on my list as well :) answer the whole post with Greek and parrallel translations which you have not done as of yet in the mean time here is the reply:


"""""An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact."""""""

Are you serious? first of all Lets get some facts straight it was 623 years after NOT 500.............the whole subject of the gospel according to maybe maybe not matthew mark luke and john and paul is not about the supoosed "death" of Jesus "It was Made to appear to them so" what man who cant read or write with out a translation of the bible in arabic can write such claims WHO can you do it have you met a man who cant read or write have you ever met someone like that plz tell me........yes there were Christians in the area at the Time but cmon for a man to orate such verses is impossible you cant even write a single chapter from it CAN YOU????
The first arabic bible was available in the 9th century 3 CENTURIES after the prophet muhammad PBUH yes or no plz tell me the man couldnt read his own language none the less read Greek that's what puzzled the people of the book how is he orating scripture without being learned....................

"""""I can only consider you as a brother in the secular human sense, as a brother in humanity, the way I would also consider an agnostic or atheist.
My brethren are in Christ Jesus. You are antichrist.'''''''

You and me are gentiles you european me asian arent we all from the seed of adam ie the seed of noah Brothers of humanity my friend or brothers of the Abrhamic monotheistic Faith and to compare me to an atheist is very insulting but ill take it for God says to forgive and overlook.......your brothers are in jesus christ then embrace all brands and denominations of the Christiandom even the catholics right Either way i cant help loving my fellow mankind For God is most Kind to everyone and has shown me too much love for me to show abhor ant distaste for anyone!!!!!!!!


In What way am I the anti christ = anti Messiah? that is literally incorrect and a false statement anti means the opposite or to oppose and messiah is one who is anointed we Believe in the Messiah Just not Exactly the same way you do and you know that "tell me plz where does the Quran insult Jesus son of man....... his personality his virgin birth his miracles by God his instructions and teachings his character where what Muslim insults Jesus PBUH
who insults him or blasphemes him cuz the second any of them do they need to proclaim there vows of faith again
there is NO other gods Beside God
I bear witness as a muslim i believe in all the angels, the original Torah, the orginal Gospel of jesus, the Psalms aka zaboor of David and the final testament the Holy Quran
I bear witness as a muslim that i believe in the prophets and messengers of God
i believe in the last day the day of judgement and LIFE after Death
proclmation of faith


"""""""I am not like you. Truth is what matters most to me. If my uncle had corrected himself after such a huge and important mistake/deception, I would make and upload a YouTube correcting it, rather than keeping it a secret.""""""""

Did you post my previous message on your Forum all of it without blemish YES OR NO.....if truth is all that matters to you then Y would you insult a Deciest man like the babylonian talmudists............most certainly you are definitely not like me neither am i like you.........

""""""""Coming to common terms is an impossibility. Let's explore THE CORE of our understanding to see exactly why, rather than you trying to run and hide, in a copy and pasted blizzard of Greek sophist styled foolishness""""""""

Copy and pasted Cause I dont like to misqoute or mis refrence or add and delete as your scholars do neither would i like to misinterpret whats left of the Holy Injeel in the gospel ACCORDING TO matthew mark luke and john.....

"""""""Conversations tend to develop in the same predictable pattern with you guys.
But you are only fooling yourself, my friend, even citing the gospel of Barnabas again after I exposed it for you as the 16th century Mohammedan forgery that it demonstrates itself to be. Most YouTube Muslims seem to have been embarrassed enough by it, to have learned better than to cite that nonsense, wherein Jesus declares that Mohammed was the Messiah, and not Jesus.""""""""""

In the previous message my "blizzard of Copy paste" you never replied neither have you answered in detail with references with parrallel translations + + + the original greek sophist if you with to call it that ++++++++ word by word translations of the verses............. Mohammadan is an archaic term the knights templar who deviated from christianity after defeating muslims used to call us -----meaning worshippers of muhammad i Guess guilty of that very crime which was being done to jesus they wanted to slander and point fingers at the muslims then the knights aka crusaders started worshipping baphomet lol lol who is Satan himself so your going to refer to me as what the satan worshipers referred to me as then be my Guest itll just make me question your purposes....you exposed the gospel of barnabas???? really you did where with what FACTUAL HISTORICAL evidences did you expose the banned Gospel of Barnabas HAVE YOU EVEN EVER READ IT i guess the quran and Gospel of barnabas are on your check list for summer reading now...........Muhammad was NOT the messiah and Neither did he claim to be neither did God appoint him as that...........i am a strict Monotheist and WOrship God alone with no partners by the way so plz refer to my faith as mozlem moozlum or muslim which means submitter to the will of the ONE God.......


"""""If you had ever read the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you would understand that there is only a single concept that you most need to concern yourself with, and THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT or misunderstanding between Christians and Mohammedans, in our RESPECTIVE understanding of it. You can set all the rest of your Greek sophist styled nonsense and felonious effort at MISunderstanding aside. Nothing else matters.""""""

YOUR RIGHT BUTTTTTT IM NOT A MUHAMMADAN so my greek sophists is non sense cause you cant Do what I requested because in Fact no where you can proove your Claims if you did The Quran COmmands

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
Quran - 2:111

Nay - who is it that responds to the distressed when he calls out to Him, and who removes the ill [that caused the distress], and has made you inherit the earth? Could there be any divine power besides God? How seldom do you keep this in mind!
Nay - who is it that guides you in the midst of the deep darkness of land and sea, and sends forth the winds as a glad tiding of His coming grace? Could there be any divine power besides God? Sublimely exalted is God above anything to which men may ascribe a share in His divinity!
Nay - who is it that creates [all life] in the first instance, and then brings it forth anew? And who is it that provides you with sustenance out of heaven and earth? Could there be any divine power besides God? Say: "[If you think so,] produce your evidence - if you truly believe in your claim!"
Quran - 27

Where is your proof that Jesus Claimed Divinity "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE"
in what context is Jesus Saying that did you read plz NOT JUST THIS VERSE ALL THE VERSES IN THE PREVIOUS POST TAKE YOUR TIME IF YOU CAN otherwise You aren't true to your claims of Jesus being the Begotten Son of God!!!!

""""""""This single verse from the Quran exposes Mohammed's 7th century religion as being the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel - no matter what translation you use. This verse from Mohammed's religion shows those of us that follow Jesus Christ - the Messiah - that Mohammedanism was necessarily inspired by a jealous fallen angel named Satan (even Mohammed was convinced it was jinn that met him in that cave""""""""

It makes me really sad that you Mock and ridicule yet I ask the Quran and It answers all Glory Belongs to God!!!!!!

In the name of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
81:19 behold, this [divine writ] is indeed the [inspired] word of a noble apostle,
81:20 with strength endowed, secure with Him who in almightiness is enthroned
81:21 [the word] of one to be heeded, and worthy of trust!
81:22 For, this fellow-man of yours is not a madman:
81:23 he truly beheld [the angel - beheld] him on the clear horizon;
81:24 and he is not one to begrudge others the knowledge [of whatever has been revealed to him] out of that which is beyond the reach of human Perception.
81:25 Nor is this [message] the word of any satanic force accursed.
81:26 Whither, then, will you go?
81:27 This [message] is no less than a reminder to all mankind --
81:28 to everyone of you who wills to walk a straight way.
81:29 But you cannot will it unless God, the Sustainer of all the worlds, wills [to show you that way].


Hence, [be patient,] even though
they who are bent on denying the truth
would all but kill thee with their eyes whenever they hear this reminder,
and [though] they say,
"[As for Mubammad,] behold, most surely he is a madman!"
Quran - 68:51

How shall the message be (effectual) for them, seeing that an Messenger explaining things clearly has (already) come to them,-
Yet they turn away from him and say: "Tutored (by others), a man possessed!"

Say: "He is the Most Gracious: we have attained to faith in Him, and in Him have we placed our trust; and in time you will come to know which of us was lost in manifest error."
Say [unto those who deny the truth]: "What do you think? If of a sudden all your water were to vanish underground, who [but God] could provide you with water from [new] unsullied springs?"
Nun. CONSIDER the pen, and all that they write [therewith]!
Thou art not, by thy Sustainer's grace, a madman!
Quran - 68:2


"you wanna know what the was commanded to say to him from God On the Night of power"
The angel commanded him to IQRA' which means Read Proclaim or recite
In the Name of God Most gracious most merciful
96:1 Read in the name of your Lord who has created.
96:2 He created man from a clot.
96:3 Read, and your Lord is the Generous One.
96:4 The One who taught by the pen.
96:5 He taught man what he did not know.
96:6 Alas, man is bound to transgress.
96:7 When he achieves, he has no need.
96:8 To your Lord is the return.


A demons Job is to Misguide mislead from the Path of God
Read the Quran and Repent for that which you said for your own sake brother!!!!
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would a demon say such Words..... blasphemy indeed is what you say of that which you have no right to and NO ground substantial evidence to say-------but that doesnt stop any one of you does it....

""""""""""""""""""""""It cannot be any other way. There is no gray area.
ONE MUST CHOOSE between life or death.""""""""""""""""""""""""""'''''

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
""""""""An illiterate 7th century southwest Arabian desert dweller, located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land, directly contradicting the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, 500 years after the fact"""""""""""""""""""'

How could an unletterd man speak such verses and DEFEND !!!! WHO is defending here Plz dont say a demon man cmon


Qur'an 4:155-159 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
(They have incurred divine displeasure):
in that they broke their Covenant: that they rejected the Signs of Allah;
that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right;
that they said "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word; we need no more)";
nay Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy and little is it they believe.

That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge.
That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of Allah"; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so
it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not.

Nay Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness against them.

Qur'an 43:57-67 Surah Az-Zukhruf (Gold Adornments)
When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example behold thy people raise a clamor thereat (in ridicule)!

And they say " Are Our gods best or He?" This they set forth to thee only by way of disputation: yea they are a contentious people.

He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favor to him and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.

And if it were Our Will We could make angels from amongst you succeeding each other on the earth.

And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.

Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.

When Jesus came with Clear Signs he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me.

"For Allah; He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way."

But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement: then woe to the wrongdoers from the Penalty of a Grievous Day!

Do they only wait for the Hour that it should come on them all of a sudden while they perceive not?

Friends on that Day will be foes one to another except the Righteous.

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WHo are these verses speaking to YOU AND ME YES but in Particular who You tell me then watch this clip a modern version for today!!!!!!
Its messed up what they did YAHYA john the baptist PBUH zakaria PBUH both of them and how they attacked them as well as Jesus PBUH it makes me really sad :(

Please watch this God Defends Jesus in that verse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU


Qur'an 5:112-115 Surah Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread)
Behold! the disciples said: "O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus: "Fear Allah if ye have faith."
They said: "We only wish to eat thereof and satisfy our hearts and to know that thou hast indeed told us the truth; and that we ourselves may be witnesses to the miracle.
Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! send us from heaven a table set (with viands) that there may be for us for the first and the last of us a solemn festival and a sign from Thee; and provide for our sustenance for Thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs).
Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: but if any of you after that resisteth faith I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on anyone among all the peoples.

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""You can spew blasphemy against Paul all you want my friend, but it will never change the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and the new covenant we are given through Yeshua, the Messiah. Even the Messiah's name "Yeshua", means YHWH saves, rescues or delivers. Please ask yourself, what does the Messiah deliver His sheep from?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Blasphemy????? really his contradictions and me calling them out blasphemy He was a murderer wanting to commit genocide of the christian nation persecuting them wherever he could find them Blasphemy
self proclaimed "apostle to the gentiles" when Jesus said dont take my message to the gentiles or the samaritans but to the lost sheep of children of Israel

What can I say man you havent even read the Book you "supposedly" exposed Gospel of Barnabas yet you passed judgement on it so swiftly without a trial!!!!!!!!!! Lets read what Paul the "self proclaimed apostle to the gentiles" who saw A GHOST of Jesus then started preaching Begotten son of God who Died for mankinds sins the man who was ONLY sent to the lost sheep of Israel and who commanded against that the message to the gentiles and samaritans

In his Epistle to the Colossians 4:10
Paul describes Barnabas thus: " . . . Barnabas, touching whom ye received commandments; if he comes unto you, receive him." Here Paul refers to commandments of Jesus.

the Epistle to the Galatians:
"And when James, Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship 2:9

"And Joses, who by the Apostles was surnamed Barnabas, which is, being interpreted, (The son of consolation), a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus." (Acts 4:36)

Paul was a Jew who was persecuting the Christians. He is said to have seen Jesus in a vision and to have become a convert to the creed of Jesus. Among the disciples of Jesus, Barnabas was a dynamic evangelist. Paul also became a preacher, with the difference that Paul began to over-praise and deify Jesus. "And straightaway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the son of God." (Acts 9: 20).

ACTS 9:26 and 27: "And when Saul ( Paul ) was come to Jerusalem he assayed to join himself to the disciples, but they were all afraid of him and believed not that he was a disciple. "But Barnabas took him and, brought him to the Apostles.
ACTS 11:22-30: "Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the Church which was in Jerusalem; and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

"Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: "And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
"And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
"And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the spirit that there should be great dearth throughout the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.



PLEASE ANSWER MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE THE WAY I REQUESTED IT TO BE IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL my BROTHER TRUST IS NOT BLIND AND NEITHER IS THE TRUTH WE SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH FIRST HAND ILL RESEND IT TO YOU!!!!
PEACE BE UPON YOU!!!!!!!!

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2010, 10:37:47 AM »
12-13

Then he even repeated the first 4 posts above. In typical Mohammedan fashion he believes that he can run and hide in a blizzard of copy and paste, while distracting himself from having to contemplate the real questions. Any replies to the following are in the original post in the chats with Muslims category.
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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2010, 10:39:33 AM »
12-13

Just wanted to ask are you working on it and please send me the link for the "mistake" of uncle deedat!

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2010, 11:16:07 AM »
12-13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9E34-xgSM

The people in the first part of the video are downright delusional! The first guy speaking about the Koran says he doesn't see that the Koran is about killing. Yet the Q'ran says:

Sura 9:5  But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);...

Another guy says Sharia is about forgiveness and mercy, not just judgment. What has he been smoking?

A third says moderate people have support from verses in the Q'ran, and radical people have the same thing with different verses in the Q'ran.
Contradictions are a good thing? Hardly.

and the most delusional of the bunch: "the Q'ran honors women, the Q'ran dignifies women. I feel that as a woman every day."

Sura 2:282 "...if the two be not men, then one man and two women, such witnesses as you approve of, that if one of the two women errs the other will remind her..."

in the above verse, a woman's testimony in court has half the value of a man's. How does that honor and dignify women?

Sura 24.6 And for those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own,- their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth;

Don't anger your husband, ladies.

"your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth
when or how ye will." (Sura 2:223).

A wife has the value of farmland? Seriously?

How anyone could possibly put a positive spin on this stuff is beyond me!
 
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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2010, 11:21:25 AM »
Another guy says Sharia is about forgiveness and mercy, not just judgment. What has he been smoking?

Indeed!
Jesus healed the lame so they could walk.
Mohammed brought lameness to the walking. "...they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off."
Jesus brought sight to the blind.
Mohammed brought blindness to the seeing. "...he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes..."
Jesus brought the dead back to life.
Mohammed killed the living.

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2010, 11:28:03 AM »
A third says moderate people have support from verses in the Q'ran, and radical people have the same thing with different verses in the Q'ran.

Do doubt about who will ultimately win that argument.
And at the point of a sword!

Contradictions are a good thing? Hardly.

and the most delusional of the bunch: "the Q'ran honors women, the Q'ran dignifies women. I feel that as a woman every day."

Sura 2:282 "...if the two be not men, then one man and two women, such witnesses as you approve of, that if one of the two women errs the other will remind her..."

in the above verse, a woman's testimony in court has half the value of a man's. How does that honor and dignify women?

Sura 24.6 And for those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own,- their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth;

Don't anger your husband, ladies.

Indeed again bro!
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm

But hey, what you point out is also what makes women stupid, according to Mohammed.

Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301 "The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence."  

All a Muslim needs to do to divorce his wife is say "I divorce you" 3 times. In Malaysia and Saudi Arabia they do it by text message! Now that's what we can all agree is respect!

Nothing like a good beating to straighten them out!

Sura (4:34) - Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT THEM; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

Female slaves and captives are for prostituting WHEN they don't desire chastity, but hey, if you force them Allah will forgive!

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)

Muslims think 4 women would enjoy competing for one husband's attention, though Mohammed's alter-ego "Allah" lavished on him all the wives he wanted, through a special "revelation"

Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...... this only for thee
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=456.0
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1528.msg5864#msg5864
Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2010, 05:21:37 AM »
12-14 (later in the day from faro)

Read and refute copy by copy paste by paste word by word PLZ!!!


Say: "O People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, when Allah is Himself witness to all ye do?"
Say: "O ye People of the Book! Why obstruct ye those who believe, from the path of Allah, Seeking to make it crooked, while ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah's Covenant)? but Allah is not unmindful of all that ye do."
3:99

O followers of the Bible!
Now there has come unto you Our Apostle, to make clear unto you much of what you have been concealing [from yourselves) of the Bible,
and to pardon much.
Now there has come unto you from God a light, and a clear divine writ,
through which God shows unto all that seek His goodly acceptance the paths leading to salvation and,
by His grace,
brings them out of the depths of darkness into the light and guides them onto a straight way.
Quran - 5


WOW you just slander away dont you someone who you dont know havent seen havent met neither have you read the Quran and call him the anti christ when really the Zionistic talmud where they get there protocols from insult Jesus PBUH and Deny him as the Christ so they use that to isolate JEWS CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS in the occupied camps but You have not replied the way you Should have that message......and you call us the anti christ when they run everything and we believe in jesus Son of mary really......alex crowley wrote satans bible have you ever read it i read the first chapter and couldnt read any more the first commanment "DO AS THOU WILL, YE ARE GOD" thats kinda scary and you blame all those events and attacks on Islam is your own ignorance because if you read the Quran you would not be saying that The quranic paradise can be breifly described here all signs for those who believe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7yaDlZfqrc

"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
Matthew 5:22

'They hated me for no reason.'
pt John 15:25



See you couldnt reply to the initial post and are now using a book written 187 years after the prophet passed away (hadith) which was not authorized in any way by him or the disciples in any way you cant refute from the QURAN

instead of writing emotionally biased blood salvation which is PAGAN in origin and hoping that it will remit sins
"OMG ITS BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH"
and simply refute the Book we say is from God then I dont know what to say.........

Your own scholars your own biblical scholars don even know what to say when presented with the Questions we have the Bible Disproves itself

Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against Allah even as he is being invited to Islam?
And Allah guides not those who do wrong.

Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths:
but Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
It is He Who has sent His Apostle with Guidance and the Religion of Truth that he may proclaim it over all religion even though the Pagans may detest (it).
Qur'an 61


Qur'an 2:135-141
They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (to salvation).
" Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the religion of Abraham the true and he joined not gods with Allah."
Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma'il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)."

So if they believe as ye believe they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back it is they who are in schism; but Allah will suffice thee as against them and He is the All-Hearing the All-Knowing.
(Our religion is) the baptism of Allah; and who can baptize better than Allah? and it is He whom we worship.

Say: Will ye dispute with us about Allah seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord; that we are responsible for our doings and ye for yours; and that we are sincere (in our faith) in Him?

Or do ye say that Abraham Isma'il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians?

Say: Do ye know better than Allah? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!
That was a people that hath passed away.
They shall reap the fruit of what they did and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case.


Qur'an 4:163-170 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
We have sent thee (O Muhammad) inspiration
as We sent it to
Noah and the Messengers after him; We sent inspiration to
Abraham
Ismail
Isaac
Jacob and the
Tribes to Jesus Job Jonah Aaron and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms.
Of some Apostles We have already told thee the story;
of others We have not; and to Moses Allah spoke direct.
Apostles who gave good news as well as warning that mankind after (the coming) of the Apostles should have no plea against Allah:
for Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.
But Allah beareth witness that what He hath sent unto thee He hath sent from His (Own) Knowledge and the angels bear witness:
but enough is Allah for a Witness.
Those who reject faith and keep off (men) from the way of Allah have verily strayed far far away from the path.
Those who reject faith and do wrong Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any way.
Except the way of Hell to dwell therein for ever:
and this to Allah is easy.

O mankind! the Apostle hath come to you in truth from Allah: believe in him: it is best for you. But if ye reject faith to Allah belong all things in the heavens and on earth: and Allah is All-Knowing All-Wise.

O ye who believe! be ye helpers of Allah: as said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the Disciples "We are Allah's helpers!" Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed and a portion disbelieved: but We gave power to those who believed against their enemies and they became the ones that prevailed.


And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.
Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
When Jesus came with Clear Signs he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me.
"For Allah; He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way."
But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement: then woe to the wrongdoers from the Penalty of a Grievous Day!


Behold! Allah said:
"O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme;
I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject Faith to the Day of Resurrection;
then shall ye all return unto Me and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
"As to those who reject faith I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter nor will they have anyone to help.
"As to those who believe and work righteousness Allah will pay them (in full) their reward; but Allah loveth not those who do wrong.
"This is what We rehearse unto thee of the Signs and the Message of Wisdom."

END OF QURAN VERSES
________________________________________________________________________



For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven
Matthew 5:20
^^^^^^^^^^^^atleast this is true OH wait you make fun of someone who has passed away^^^^^^^^ Very righteous isnt it :)


Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:22

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
Matthew 7:23




We pray like heathens REALLY OH WAIT YOU SAID LIKE THE HEATHEN NOW, well atleast we pray to God the one God of all the prophets

And when you call to prayer, they mockingly mimic and deride the act of worship and amuse themselves with what they hear and see.
This is because they are a people who lack the faculty of comprehending intellectually
Quran - 5:58


How amazing is the Quran really a reply for everything does the Bible Do that NOPE

And behold! Allah will say
"O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men 'worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"?
He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say).
Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it.
Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine.
For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
"Never said I to them anything except what Thou didst command me to say to wit 'Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord';
and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them;
when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and Thou art a Witness to all things.
"If Thou dost punish them they are Thy servants:
if Thou dost forgive them Thou art the Exalted the Wise.
Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are Gardens with rivers flowing beneath their eternal home:
Allah well-pleased with them and they with Allah:

that is the great Salvation (the fulfillment of all desires).
To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is therein and it is He who hath power over all things.
Qur'an 5:116-120

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2010, 05:22:17 AM »
12-14

what happened to your skills man what happened Copy the verses from the psalms and the Quran with transliteration of the verse that says BACA and pilgramage
The black stone are you serious we Dont worship the Kabaa neither the Black stone
Some kiss it because the prophet kissed it and it is said that the stone came from heaven

Refute those verses here ill help

____Psalm of David 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimageAs they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.Psalm 84:6

Baca means Mecca still dont believe me read ahead


transliteration of the verse
bakkata mubarakan wahudan lilAAalameena

Quran - 3:96
Behold, the first Temple ever set up for mankind was indeed the one at Bakkah:
rich in blessing, and a [source of] guidance unto all the worlds,
full of clear messages.
[It is] the place whereon Abraham once stood;
and whoever enters it finds inner peace.
Hence, pilgrimage unto the Temple is a duty owed to God by all people who are able to undertake it.
And as for those who deny the truth - verily, God does not stand in need of anything in all the worlds.
Quran - 3:97

3:98
SAY: "O followers of earlier revelation! Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth of God's messages,
when God is witness to all that you do?
"Say: "O followers of earlier revelation!
Why do you [endeavour to] bar those who have come to believe [in this divine writ] from the path of God by trying to make it appear crooked,
when you yourselves bear witness [to its being straight]?
For, God is not unaware of what you do."
3:99

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Re: Extension faro
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2010, 05:22:55 AM »
12-14

I bear witness that there is no gods/god But the ONE TRUE GOD and muhammad is his messenger............



to follow the Gospel of Barnabas is more Submitting to God's will then your version of Judaism oh wait you guys arent jewish uhm uhm

Christianity right wait Jesus never heard the word neither did he preach that word did HE?


You have not read the Gospel of Barnabas or the Quran FOR A FACT NOW I know!!!!!!!! if you read the gospel of Barnabas like you say (Im only after the truth) like you say you are then you would know what barnabas Said regarrding The cross and crucifction and Paul BUTTTTTTT no you'd rather

Follow an egyptian / Pagan/roman/greek
belief that God begot a Son which is blasphemous Have you heard about Horus the SUN GOD have you What about hercules and zeus ----- im sure you have heard that story what was hercules haan HE WAS THE SON OF ZEUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Im not saying that Jesus PBUH has anything to do with this He is innocent of your blasphemy
Qur'an 5:116-120
And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary!
didst thou say unto men 'worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"?
He will say: "Glory to Thee!
never could I say what I had no right (to say).

Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it.
Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine.
For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
"Never said I to them anything except what Thou didst command me to say to wit
'Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord';
and I was a
witness
over them whilst I dwelt amongst them;
when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and Thou art a Witness to all things.
"If Thou dost punish them they are Thy servants:
if Thou dost forgive them Thou art the Exalted the Wise.

Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth:
theirs are Gardens with rivers flowing beneath their eternal home:
Allah well-pleased with them and they with Allah:
that is the
great Salvation
(the fulfillment of all desires).
To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is therein and it is He who hath power over all things.



Horus:
The most commonly encountered family relationship describes Horus as the son of Isis
Representing the concept of salvation he is identified with Horus and in particular "Horus the Child"
so horus died or was a savior who died for whooooooooooo?????
Think about it

MY PAGAN MECCA BELIEFS?????? HOW DARE YOU WHEN YOUR SALVATION LIES IN BLOOD AND FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF AN INNOCENT AND FALSE TESTIMONIES WHEN HE ASKED GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WILL LET THIS CUP PASS FROM HIM

THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WHICH S A LIE ALTOGETHER PUT TOGETHER BY NONE OTHER THAN PAUL HES NO SAINT HE'S A BLASPHEMER IF HE ONLY KNEW WHAT CONSTANTINE DID A COUPLE YEARS LATER HE WD HAVE BEEN MORE CAREFULL

I THINK PAUL's religion is coming into affect here isnt it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was also a Roman citizen—a fact that afforded him a privileged legal status with respect to laws, property, and governance.

Hercules

In their popular culture the Romans adopted the Etruscan Hercle, a hero-figure that had already been influenced by Greek culture — especially in the conventions of his representation — but who had experienced an autonomous development. Etruscan Hercle appears in the elaborate illustrative engraved designs on the backs of Etruscan bronze mirrors made during the fourth century BC, which were favoured grave goods. Their specific literary references have been lost, with the loss of all Etruscan literature, but the image of the mature, bearded Hercules suckling at Uni/Juno's breast, engraved on a mirror back from Volterra, is distinctively Etruscan. This Hercle/Hercules — the Hercle of the interjection "Mehercle!" — remained a popular cult figure in the Roman legions

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« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
Replies to the last 3 PMs sent later on the 14th start here
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9128#msg9128

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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2010, 04:08:10 AM »
See you waited till i sent you more posts then you replied so you could avoid this
you copy and paste things you can present you rmischeif with then you reply with conjecture/assumptions lol its ok dude
Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
Quran - 61:8

Do you not read the name up there do you
YOU HAVE NOT READ THE QURAN OR ANY OF THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS
their digging by the way and the more they dig the more issues that are raised i know people who were christians and now are athiest and i feel bad <------copy paste everything plz and then reply
This is not about debate bro or dialogue that wont solve anything neither will it unite us do you think christ is going to come Back as a God and if He does than you know who that is Because God is spirit and you must worship him in truth and spirit and flesh begets flesh and spirit begets spirit John 3:6
YOU NEVER RESPONDED ABOUT DAVID TALKING ABOUT PILGIMAGE TO BACA AND THE VERSE

Watch these lets be more tolerant of each other!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQHgdmJqjo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhBIW5M4NI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpbbkD9iCFI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L7cQ3BrD5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvqS5RJ733g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOiA_1srqzE


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