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Even though they post horrific Islamic atrocities almost daily, with several listed on some days, their most recent article: "Five Americans Who Are Standing Up Against Radical Islam" further demonstrates The Clarion Project's continued wishful abject blindness to the truth, regarding the enemy of all mankind, let alone their inability to see the spiritual nature of the conflict the world faces today.
https://clarionproject.org/five-americans-who-are-standing-up-against-radical-islam/

Only one of the Americans they listed is a non-Muslim - indeed is an ex-Muslim - even though the most significant problem the whole world faces today, as it has for 1400 years, is the specifically counter-gospel, antichrist, anti-religion cult of Islam itself.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/index.htm#muhammad_on_the_gospel

Because of the Quran and Hadith, Islam is no different today than it was 1400 years ago, or during 800 years of persecution of East Indians, or when Muslims were pirating, slaughtering and enslaving United States mariners, or than Islam was 100 years ago as Sir Winston Churchill attested:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/#winston_churchill

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.” - by Sir Winston Churchill - The River War, Vol. II, pp. 248-50, London; Longman, Green & Co., 1899

Prophetic words indeed, as the church continues to die throughout Europe, while Islam steps in to fill the spiritual vacuum.
http://www.christianeschatology.com/falling_away_apostasy.htm#apostasy_in_europe

"Muslims are the first victims of Islam, to liberate them from this religion is the best service that one can render them..." ~ Ernest Renan (1823-1892)
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamophobia_or_christian_love.htm

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I sent Clarion the following note:

I find it ever more amazing how you can post Islamic atrocity after atrocity, on a near daily basis, and still not understand what the problem is. Which I pointed out in this forum thread regarding your article:
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=5393.0

Which at least Sarah Haider gets when she posted an article in her magazine by Soran Tarkhani that recognizes the obvious nature of the problem as even liberals should be able to grasp:
https://www.theexmuslim.com/2016/04/12/what-about-the-victims-of-islam/

"Criticizing Islam should be a liberal individual’s first and foremost goal. If you believe treating women as second class citizens, closer to slaves than peers, killing apostates, prohibiting gay rights, curtailment or elimination of individual liberty, child abuse, underage marriage FGM and other norms do not need to be challenged how can you in good conscience call yourself a liberal? How can you jeopardize your fundamental principles for something that directly threatens your norms and beliefs?"

"Muslims are the first victims of Islam, to liberate them from this religion is the best service that one can render them..." ~ Ernest Renan (1823-1892)

So what do you suppose makes it so hard for you guys to understand and accept the truth?
Pete

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On April 23rd Jeremy was kind enough to reply with:

Dear Pete,

Clarion Project was set up to fight the ideology of radical Islam and not the theology. Legitimate criticism of Islam as with every religion is acceptable and anybody that disagrees with that point is deluding themselves. We need to speak out against these people as much as the twisted ideology they try and defend.

Kind regards,

Jeremy

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To which I replied today:

Hi Jeremy,

Sorting through my inbox I realized I didn't reply to your email. Please excuse my failure. You said "Clarion Project was set up to fight the ideology of radical Islam and not the theology." So I presume you don't count yourself among those that are calling for an Islamic reformation. However it's impossible to avoid fighting against Islamic theology, because when you fight against Islamic terrorism, you are fighting against orthodox Islamic theology as well as 1400 years of Islamic history and Muhammad himself. It seems more like you are wishing you could replace true, fundamental, orthodox Islam, with some sort of heterodox creation, that could only be accomplished by ignoring the Quran and Hadith. Every Muslim recognizes this verse (from near the end of Muhammad's "revelations" so it cannot be abrogated):

Surah 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

So few things could be more Islamic, than Islamic terrorism, since Muhammad himself (or even worse, his "Allah") was a conveniently self-admitted terrorist. What you desire is against Islamic theology as well as true, fundamental, orthodox Muslims, that are armed with and supported by the Quran and Hadith in one hand and a beheading knife in their other, while you stand empty-handed, with hollow, unsupportable, wishful words.

The Bukhari collection of hadiths is considered to be next to the Quran in divine inspiration, in which we read:

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.....

That is of course what true, orthodox, fundamental Muslims have believed and have been engaged in for 1400 years. Just as Muhammad was:

Surah 33:26 Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before.

Thus, hundreds of millions of Muslims fully understand what Islam's mission is, but luckily for civil society, at this time many would rather sit back and let their brethren do the heavy lifting:

Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay.....a promise binding on Him in.....the Qur'an.....
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm

Like so many others that are outspoken against Islamic terrorism, the reason for the politically-correct self-imposed blindness to the truth, is that so few are trying to understand or explain this through a spiritual perspective, in which it cannot be reasonably denied that this is a spiritual battle as can be easily recognized through a single verse in the Quran:

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him.....for of a surety they killed him not:-

So Islam is revealed as a specifically counter-gospel anti-religion, because Muhammad denied the whole subject of the Gospel of Jesus Christ - indeed the whole bible - in that one irrevocable verse. Nor have I ever run across a single Muslim that would deny that verse or would confess that Christ did die on the cross. Through that single verse Muhammad denied all of the prophets and witnesses, as revealed in the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind, whose people have followed Him through two covenants for 3500 years. While the conspicuously false prophet Muhammad stands alone.

One group stands for truth and the goodness and righteousness of Jesus Christ, while the other enforces their lies and deception with terrorism. That single verse precludes Muhammad's followers from seeking salvation from sin through faith in the shed blood of the sacrifice of the Passover Lamb of God - the whole subject of the Gospel.

From a Christian perspective those that oppose our great God Yahweh, as revealed through His 1600 year record to mankind, are driven by Satan's spirit of antichrist. Perhaps nowhere is that more apparent than in the actions of Muhammad's true, fundamental, orthodox followers as revealed through the murder, mayhem and misery they perpetrate all around the world today, just as over the last 1400 years.

There are only two sides. God's and Satan's. I praise the Lord for guiding me so that I will not wind up standing in judgement, for trying to excuse away an antichrist cult, whose adherents must deny the crucifixion of the Son of God, as articles of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone.

1 John 2:22 ..... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father.....

Quran Surah 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

God gave His people all the tools we need to fight this epic battle, it's just so sad so few are out there engaging the enemy of God with them:

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

If you choose to reply, I would appreciate it if you would begin by pointing out  anything in the preceding that you believe to be untrue. I am always open to correction through truth. May the good Lord bless you and guide us both in all truth.

Sincerely and in Christ Jesus,
Pete