Author Topic: Muslim Zionist Student - Thanks to "The Case For Israel" by Alan Dershowitz  (Read 1622 times)

PeteWaldo

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Certainly the first I've run across. And he's not even an Israeli.
While we never hear of this, how many Muslims in Israel might secretly in their hearts, be of the same persuasion? How many would actually prefer Israel be turned into just another Middle East, sharia law ruled, child doing, multiple wife and concubine beating, Christian and Jew persecuting and murdering, Islamic slave state?
Particularly how many Israeli Muslim women would want to live the way their counterparts are subjected to in Muslim majority states? Like in Saudi Arabia where men lock their wives in the house all day, and in Saudi Arabia and Malaysia where women are divorced by text messaging: "I divorce you" three times, to put former wives out in the street, as the husband moves on to his next victims.

Much of the protesting in the Middle East today, like in Egypt, is by Muslims who don't desire to be ruled the only way Islamic slave states have ever been able to be ruled, by despotic murderous iron fisted totalitarian regimes. This is of course because freedom, liberty and the right to self-determination are the very antithesis of Islam, that must maintain a constant vigil of censoring and persecuting truth.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm#death_penalty_apostasy

http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#death_penalty_blasphemy

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4220976,00.html    

This is one of a precious few of the followers of the false prophet Muhammad I have run across, that actually exhibits a capacity for critical thought. As such, my biggest question is, how can he still be a Muslim? I would imagine that he won't be for long.
Please read the article at the link provided.

Muslim, Zionist and proud

Op-ed: His father praised Hitler, but Kasim Hafeez writes about love for Israel, Jewish people

Kasim Hafeez
Published:    04.25.12, 17:27 / Israel Opinion
   
Muslim, Zionist and proud

"I am a Zionist, a proud Muslim Zionist, and I love Israel, but this was not always the case. In fact, for many years I was quite the extreme opposite. I experienced the high levels of anti-Semitism and anti-Israel activity taking place on British university campuses, because I was the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel activist.

Growing up in the Muslim community in the UK I was exposed to materials and opinions at best condemning Israel, painting Jews as usurpers and murderers, and at worse calling for the wholesale destruction of the "Zionist Entity" and all Jews. In short, there was no accommodating a Jewish State in the Middle East.

To grow up around this constant barrage of hatred directed at Israel has a massive effect on an individual’s own opinions. More disturbingly, many of these people weren’t radical or extreme, but when it was about Israel the most vicious of rhetoric poured out, coupled with the casual anti-Semitism that seemed too prevalent, when the phrase "stop being a Jew" used as an insult.

My father, however, was much more brazen in his hatred, boasting of how Adolf Hitler was a hero, his only failing being that he didn't kill enough Jews.

By the time I had reached 18 I was completely indoctrinated to the fold of radical Islamism. My hate for Israel and for the Jews was fuelled by images of death and destruction, set to the backdrop of Arabic melodies about Jihad and speeches of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah or Osama Bin Laden.

These views were reinforced when I attended Nakba Day rallies, where speakers predicted Israel's demise as Hezbollah flags were waved proudly in the centre of London.

The Case for Israel

Was there a case for Israel? In my mind, of course not, there was no shadow of doubt. Even the most moderate clerics I came across refused to condemn terrorism against Israel as unjustified; the Jews must obviously deserve it, I believed.

So what changed? How could I go from all this hatred to the great love for and affinity with Israel and the Jewish people? I found myself in the Israel and Palestine section of a local bookstore and picked up a copy of Alan Dershowitz’s The Case for Israel. Given my worldview, the Jews and Americans controlled the media, so after brief look at the back, I scoffed thinking "vile Zionist propaganda."

I did, however, decide to buy it, content that I would shortly be deconstructing this propaganda piece, showing that Israel had no case and claiming my findings as a personal victory for the Palestinian cause.

As I read Dershowitz’s arguments and deconstruction of many lies I saw as unquestionable truths, I searched despairingly for counter arguments, but found more hollow rhetoric that I’d believed for many years. I felt a real crisis of conscience, and thus began a period of unbiased research. Up until that point I had not been exposed to anything remotely positive about Israel.

Now, I didn't know what to believe. I'd blindly followed others for so long, yet here I was questioning whether I had been wrong. I reached a point where I felt I had no other choice but to see Israel for myself; only that way I’d really know the truth. At the risk of sounding cliché, it was a life-changing visit.

No apartheid state

I did not encounter an apartheid racist state, but rather, quite the opposite. I was confronted by synagogues, mosques and churches, by Jews and Arabs living together, by minorities playing huge parts in all areas of Israeli life, from the military to the judiciary. It was shocking and eye-opening. This wasn't the evil Zionist Israel that I had been told about.

After much soul searching, I knew what I had once believed was wrong. I had been confronted with the truth and had to accept it. But I had a bigger question to confront, what now? I’d for years campaigned against Israel, but now I knew the truth."

Please read on:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4220976,00.html


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Finished "The Case For Israel" on my most recent trip. Though it's a bit dated, everyone should read it. Before I left I had added a few quotes to the website.
http://www.zionismchristian.com/palestine_palestinians.htm#muslims_target_civilians

One of the biggest take-aways regarding the two sides is which would you rather be on. The side of Israel's foes that have always specifically targeted innocent civilians while declaring the ultimate goal of genocide of all Jews, or the side of the Israelis who have always done everything in their power to minimize civilian casualties, in defense of their democracy from the Islamic onslaught. This at great cost in terms of additional casualties that would otherwise have been unnecessary, if they had used smart bombs, rather than going door to door to rout out the cowardly attackers, that hide among their own civilians specifically to increase civilian casualties among their own people for propaganda purposes.

"The number of Israeli women and children killed and injured is well in excess of the number of Palestinian women and children killed and injured-as many as three times more according to one study. A prominent feminist writer has observed,
  'On the Israeli side, 80 percent of those killed were noncombatants, most of whom were women and girls. Israeli female fatalities far outnumbered Palestinian female fatalities by either 3 to 1 or 4 to 1. (So far, I have heard no feminist complaints about this; have you?) Israeli women and girls constituted almost 40 percent of the Israeli noncombatants killed by Palestinians. Of the Palestinian deaths, over 95 percent were male. In other words, Palestinians purposefully went after women, children, and other unarmed civilians and Israelis fought against armed male soldiers who were attacking them.'"

Which side are you on?