Author Topic: Abrogated Quran VS Gospel (split off "Jesus on Adultery" - title by Peter)  (Read 5376 times)

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Re: Jesus on Adultery
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2010, 07:57:39 AM »
IF YOU DIE TAKING ALL THE SINS OF HUMANITY ON YOUR SHOULDERS DOES IT MEAN THAT THE HUMAN RACE IS NOW PURE AND SINLESS?

Regarding sin,
Rom 3:23    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Regarding salvation through Jesus Christ for Gentiles such as ourselves, it is through faith in His shed blood, that we can be saved.

Rom 3:25    Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Which is the whole subject of the Gospel - the "good news" - of the new covenant.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=537.0

CAN GOD DIE? IF ONE IS RESURRECTED DID YOU REALLY DIE OR REVIVED? WHO REVIVED JESUS?

Through your desperation you are now trying to ascribe the same attributes to God that you would to your next door neighbor. Just like the underdeveloped child-like mind of an illiterate 7th century Arabian desert dweller would do.
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Re: Jesus on Adultery
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2010, 08:07:50 AM »
THERE IS NO GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS< .......

The Gospel is the same as it has been for nearly 2 millennium as delivered through the accounts of WITNESSES.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=97.0

We well understand that you must reject the Gospel to follow Mohammed's opposite antichrist religion.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=884.msg7966#msg7966
So please tell us, who witnessed Mohammed's fanciful ride on his flying donkey-mule, for example?
(That is - Mohammed's account of Mohammed's account.)
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
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Thread subject went to the black stone and was split off on it's own at this link
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2043.0

What we see in this thread is the same as always. Mohammed's followers reject the primary subject - the very basis of the Gospel - purely because Mohammed did.
Quoting the Quran as though Mohammed's 23 year 7th century record had authority over the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1906.msg7962#msg7962

Yet when asked to bring pre-Mohammed evidence, that suggests that Mohammed's 7th century religion existed before Mohammed, they come up empty handed.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1912.0

The Unitarians interestingly maintain that Jesus was a great man and a prophet of God.

All Christians do understand that Jesus was a great man while manifest in the flesh, and it cannot be denied that He's a prophet.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/matthew_24_olivet_discourse.htm#matt_24_1

But you're citing the Unitarian church as if it were a church. Would Sunnis want us to quote the peaceful Sufi, or Ahmadiyya Islamic cult that they persecute to death, or even the Shiites, who's innocents they slaughter?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1501.0

To suggest that the Scriptures were corrupted AFTER the 7th century is, of course, preposterous. So their own prophet is caught in his confused mess by telling Christians and Jews to follow our book. You can see the absence of defense, through obfuscation, followed by ignoring the subject.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1906.msg7922#msg7922
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

That's why the Quran requires abrogation.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=116.0
Yet rather than forum Muslims simply saying 2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything? they run around in circles trying to run and hide from the obvious.
Muslims are to follow Mohammed's later "revelations" that abrogate earlier "revelations" Muslims are called to "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya....", so the "people of the book' are to judge by what Mohammed's alter ego "Allah" revealed in Mohammed's 23 year record, and NOT by what YHWH revealed through His 1600 year record that His people have followed for 3500 years. Mohammed's 7th century record, of course, being revealed as the opposite of the Gospel.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=148.0

Even as not a single Muslim, will ever be able to produce, a copy of the Gospel from any point in history over the last 2,000 years, in any language on earth, that doesn't preach the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ to save all mankind from sin.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2031.0
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 06:41:48 AM by Peter »

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Re: Jesus on Adultery
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 07:23:11 AM »
THERE IS NO GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS< .......

The Gospel is the same as it has been for nearly 2 millennium as delivered through the accounts of WITNESSES.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=97.0
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I'm sure it is the same that is why there are no differing translations, interpretations, versions, apocrypha, coptic gospels, Catholic, protestant, New age, and about 1000 different version of the BIBLE? 5300 manuscripts do not agree.YOUR CLAIM THAT ALL THE BIBLES ARE THE SAME IS BOGUS AND TO CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE COPIES OF THE ORIGINALS OR THAT YOU EVEN KNOW WHO PENNED THEM IS ABSURD.


We well understand that you must reject the Gospel to follow Mohammed's opposite antichrist religion.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=884.msg7966#msg7966
So please tell us, who witnessed Mohammed's fanciful ride on his flying donkey-mule, for example?
(That is - Mohammed's account of Mohammed's account.)
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1253.0

I REJECT THAT WHICH IS MAN_MADE IN THE NAME OF GOD BY PAGAN INTERPRETERS OF THE AFRO-SEMETIC RELIGION, ISLAM, SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD (NOT SPIRIT)

I REJECT ANY CONTRADICTION TO "YOUR LORD THE GOD IS ONE,

I REJECT ANY BELIEF IN WHICH A MAN BORN OF A WOMAN IS DEIFIED>

I REJECT ANY SCRIPTURE THAT NULLIFIES THE LAWS OF THE GOD AS SENT TO ALL THE PROPHETS OF THE GOD.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP ALLAH
I BELIEVE IN ALL PROPHETS AND THE BOOKS OF THE PROPHETS (NOW CONTAINED IN THE QURAN)
I BELIEVE IN THE ANGELS OF THE GOD
I BELIEVE IN THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH< MUHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM
I BLIEVE IN JUDGEMENT DAY
I BELIEVE THAT ALLAH HAS ABSOLUTE POWER OVER ALL THINGS

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Re: Abrogated Quran VS Gospel (split off "Jesus on Adultery" - title by Peter)
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 07:26:05 AM »
Besides hopelessly ignoring that which you quoted, you are not finished with the thread you need to stick to as part of the terms of your return. Nor did you answer them in order. Please return to that thread now.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1912.msg8551#msg8551
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 07:29:21 AM by Peter »