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Arabic is an Ancient Language?
« on: May 23, 2011, 11:44:35 AM »
Far from being an ancient language, Arabic is an Eastern African tongue that arrived in about 300 AD, without a history prior to that time.
Indeed it having developed in East Africa makes perfect sense when we consider that the ancestors of Muhammad's tribe the Quraish, had migrated across the strait from Ethiopia (not Iishmaelites but perhaps Cus**tes or Hamites) to Yemen, and then in around the 4th century AD migrated from Yemen to the newly settled Mecca.

http://www.soyouwanna.com/history-arabic-language-1143.html
"Prior to the revelation to the prophet Mohammad and the subsequent spread of Arabic as the language of the new religion of Islam, Arabic paled as a linguistic power in comparison to Latin, Greek and other languages of the time."

"Like all other Semitic languages, Arabic is the descendant of a so-called "Proto-Semitic" language, which is currently believed to have developed in East Africa and which never evolved in a written form. Arabic and Amharic, the two most recent Semitic languages, both arose in the mid-300s."

http://www.vistawide.com/arabic/arabic.htm
"Arabic, which was originally a minor language of the Arabian Peninsula, began to spread in the 7th century with the rise of Islam. Apart from being the native language of over 200 million speakers located primarily in Northern Africa and throughout the Middle East, Arabic is therefore also the liturgical language of the vast population of Muslims around the world."

http://www.indiana.edu/~arabic/arabic_history.htm
"The rise of Arabic to the status of a major world language is inextricably intertwined with the rise of Islam as a major world religion. Before the appearance of Islam, Arabic was a minor member of the southern branch of the Semitic language family, used by a small number of largely nomadic tribes in the Arabian peninsula, with an extremely poorly documented textual history."

http://www.alhewar.com/habeeb_salloum_arabic_language.htm
"The Arabic language is the youngest of Semitic idioms which include Aramaic, the Assyro-Babylonian tongues, Ethiopic, Hebrew and South Arabic like Sabean and Himyaritic."

Simply Google it if you have been deluded into believing that Arabic is an ancient language.

In other words, as with all things Islamic, any claims of Arabic being an ancient language are predictably at dire odds to historical reality. In order to declare that "Allah" is the name of the God of the scriptures, rather than the Quraish pagans most powerful deity, Muhammad's followers sometimes try to make the claim that Arabic is an ancient language and some even go as far as to suggest that it was the language of the prophets and patriarchs. We can see from the evidence that is simply not true. However Muhammad's own pagan polytheist father was named "Abdullah" or "slave of Allah" - that is, slave of one of the Quraish pagan deities - long before Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century religious invention arose out of the sands of the SW Arabian desert.

The name of the one true God of the scriptures is YHWH, or Yahweh, as it occurs nearly 7,000 times in scripture.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1728.0

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Re: Arabic is an Ancient Language?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 05:08:02 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoshEeqg0lU
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u f***in ignoramous do u even know they history of Abraham or orabia or y arabs had the names like Abdullah. u theory is not only soooooo wrong but embarrassing cuz of how ignorant u r
LilBlitz116 1 week ago


@LilBlitz116 I know the history of Abraham because that record is contained in Holy Scripture, written in Hebrew. Not in fictional nonsense of a bunch of 7th century semi-literate SW Arabian desert dwellers, located over 1000 kilometers from anywhere Abraham ever traveled.
Let alone that Mecca never even existed before about the 4th century when pagan immigrants from Yemen settled the area, and built their Kaaba in the early 5th century, for Arabian Star Family worship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
IslamChristianForum 1 week ago
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It is pronounced Qu'ran, the second half of the word is pronounced like the word "on".
UT5000 1 week ago

The bible can't even conduct a proper timeline nor do math right, Abraham peace be upon him revived monotheism from a pagan society and his forefathers were monotheists ( form the survivors fo teh Ark) as well, but not his father, similary to Propeht Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him, from a pagan society but revived MOnotheism fomr teh blood of ABrahaham and Ishmael the son of the covenant as stated in the bible's timeline, which the unholy bible contradicts because it is satanic now.
UT5000 1 day ago


@UT5000 Sure. The real history, that is the OPPOSITE of that revealed in the RECORD of Scripture, was that created and put to the pen by a 7th century semi-literate SW Arabian desert dweller named Ibn Ishak, in an effort to create thousands of years of fictional history from thin air around an illiterate, mass murdering, female prisoner abusing, child doing, terrorist, thief, named Muhammad. Talk about breaking commandments!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE

IslamChristianForum 1 day ago
@UT5000 "Propeht Muhammad...revived MOnotheism.." Jews had been monotheistic worshipers for 2,000 years before Muhammad, and lived as faithful, peaceful, farmers in Medina, for hundreds of years before Muhammad raped, pillaged, and plundered them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FYYo5EINU
Muhammad's influence came from Sabian monotheistic moon worshipers who prayed 5 times a day, performed ablution, prostrated while praying, fasted for 30 days during the month of Ramadan and wore long white robes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU
IslamChristianForum 25 minutes ago
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Gen 16:11 Allah blesses and names Ismael himself.
Gen 16:16:Abram was 86 when Ismael was born.
Gen 21:5: Abram was 100 when Isaac was born.
Gen 17:24-27: "Abraham was 99 yrs when he circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
Seal, circumsicion was made before Isaac was born.
Gen 22 "shine only son Isaac." it should be "shine only son Ismael," Ishael was 13yrs, Isaac hasn't been born.
How fake your faith is? Denial now is just breathing lies. Peace and blessings on the Prophets.
UT5000 1 week ago


@UT5000 Gen 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest...
That verse assures us that even Yahweh Himself didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham, after he threw Sarah's slave Hagar and Ishmael out of his house.
Gen 21:10 ...she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, [even] with Isaac.
Cut out of Yahweh's covenant with the seed of Isaac. Video on Ishmael's seed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-SoeY-_ww
IslamChristianForum 1 day ago


@IslamChristianForum
Nah your prejudice doesn't take account for the fact that your unholy book can't keep track of math and is just plain prpaganda. LOLZ!!!
Ishaq peace be upon him wasn't ven born, you follow Paul a man who saw teh Devil in teh forest, lolz.
THe bible violates all 10 commandments.
Allah himself names IShamael peace be upon him , and said his name means GOd hears, what an honor, UNIQUE.
Gen17:3 SAcred Marriage to Hajar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NurpXfu0FHE&feature=mf­u_in_order&list=UL
UT5000 1 day ago


@UT5000 Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

There's what Abraham thought of his "sacred marriage" to Sarah's slave Hagar. He threw Hagar and Ishmael out of the house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
IslamChristianForum 1 day ago
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My child who worships the NWO anti-christ remember God himself communicated with and blessed Hajar and Sarah was very jelous of Hajar in the bile, what do x-tians know of mariiage with thier divorces, but of course you won't say that, you follow the traditions of people who follow an unholy book that can't even conduct math right, you truely sitting on sAtan's horn.
Qu'ran 67:10 the poeple of hell would say, if only we had intelligence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NurpXfu0FHE&feature=re­lmfu
UT5000 1 day ago


@UT5000 Abraham threw Sarah's slave Hagar and Ishmael out of the house, because Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac.
"...what do x-tians know of mariiage with thier divorces..." Where does the Gospel sanction divorce? Yet all Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah" needs you to do is say "I divorce you" 3 times and it's done! Not only are Muslims allowed to engage in adultery with 4 wives, and fornicate with concubines like Muhammad, but are even allowed temporary marriages for one day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAW8vBSGF0Q
IslamChristianForum 1 hour ago

@UT5000 And that didn't even address the massive problem with Muslim inbreeding...
watch?v=dKToTi0nA5I
...because Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah" also sanctioned marriage to first cousins.
"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee ... daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts..."
As a result, "According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%."
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1844.0
IslamChristianForum 54 minutes ago

@UT5000 "...if only we had intelligence." Muslims wouldn't inbreed.
"...you follow the traditions of people...". I follow the Gospel through ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of God to mankind, that His people have followed through 2 covenants for 3500 years.
You prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol, and pray in the "vain repetitions of the heathen" 5 times a day, because an ignorant 7th century illiterate named Muhammad told his followers to.
IslamChristianForum 44 minutes ago
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@UT5000 Could you please list for us all the reasons, that you prostrate yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, 5 times a day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYbRn9CAHkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyWs__Y-rU
IslamChristianForum 1 day ago


@IslamChristianForum
Quriash were teh decendants of IShameal peace be upon him and he and his father built teh Kaba on monotheism.
Can you tell me why you can't conduct math right, it is unambiguousl and clearly shows your satanic falsified foundations,
UT5000 1 day ago


@UT5000 Many of the people from northern Arabia may be part Ishmaelite (who was cut out of the covenant God had with Abraham and the seed of Isaac) and today are part of the children of the flesh of the Muslim community.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-SoeY-_ww
However Muhammad's tribe the Quraish immigrated to Mecca from Yemen a few centuries into the Christian era. Their ancestors were most likely Cush*tes or Hamites whose ancestors migrated to Yemen from Ethiopia.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1216.0
IslamChristianForum 1 hour ago

@UT5000 Your answer to why you prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day was: "IShameal...and his father built teh Kaba..."
But that answer is absolutely ridiculous in the light of scripture, history, archaeology and geography. Abraham's home was in Hebron (where Muslims still visit his grave), and he lived almost 1,000 years before the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea, and about 2,000 years before Mecca was ever settled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
IslamChristianForum 13 minutes ago

@UT5000 Since Abraham's home was in Hebron, 1200 kilometers away from where Mecca was eventually established in about the 4th century AD...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
...how did Hagar with Ishmael wander 1200 KM, across harsh barren, unexplored, untraveled desert, 900 years before history tells us the first caravan ever made the trip?
Why would Abraham abandon his wife Sarah and son Isaac, to wander 1200 KM to see Sarah's slave Hagar and Ishamel, whom he threw out of his house?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
IslamChristianForum 2 minutes ago

@UT5000 You need a better reason to prostrate yourself to the Quraish's black stone idol than THE FACT that the ONLY REASON you gave is because you believe Muhammadan so-called "tradition", that was all CREATED and put to the pen in the 7th and 8th centuries AD, and masquerades as thousands of years of pre-muhammad "history", yet does not reference any actual historical record from before the 6th century AD.
Yet you reject the Gospel & the 1600 year record of Yahweh for it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
IslamChristianForum 4 seconds ago

@UT5000 The only reason you gave as to why you prostrate yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and pray in the "vain repetitions of the heathen", is because a bunch of 7th and 8th century AD illiterate and semi-literate SW Arabian desert dwellers declared that Abraham rebuilt the Kaaba.
The question then becomes WHY DO YOU BELIEVE this preposterous provable poppycock that is so contrary to scripture, history, archaeology and geography?
watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
IslamChristianForum 1 sec ago

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Re: Arabic is an Ancient Language?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 09:31:35 AM »
Regarding the first video link he sent me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NurpXfu0FHE

on which I replied.

A Muslim sent me a link. You are suggesting that Abraham dropped Hagar and Ishmael off in the valley where Mecca was eventually settled in around the 4th century AD. Could you please explain to us why Abraham would leave Hebron, abandoning his wife Sarah & son Isaac of Yahweh's covenant, to wander 1200 KM across harsh, barren, unexplored, untraveled desert, with Sarah's slave Hagar, about 900 years before the first caravan was able to travel along the Red Sea? watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
IslamExplored 16 minutes ago

Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman SHALL NOT BE HEIR shall not be heir with my son, [even] WITH ISAAC.
Regarding your suggestion of a covenant with Ishmael, even Yahweh Himself didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham after Ishmael and Hagar were thrown out of Abraham's house.
Gen 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, THINE ONLY [son] ISAAC, whom thou lovest.
Ishmael's seed are children of the flesh.
watch?v=7_-SoeY-_ww
IslamExplored 12 seconds ago

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Re: Arabic is an Ancient Language?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 02:22:12 PM »
"Pre-Islamic Arabic and Arabic Language

The earliest Arabic inscriptions date back to AD 512-568.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language#History

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Re: Arabic is an Ancient Language?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2016, 12:13:05 AM »
Arabic wasn't even formalized as a language until the 8th century.

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It was in the second half of the eighth century, well outside the boundaries of Arabia in the conquered and occupied territories, and, largely in the famously intellectual Iraqi city of Basrah, that Muslim scholars composed the first systematic grammars and dictionaries of the Arabic language.

That isn't to say that Arabic wasn't in use.  It just wasn't formalized.  This book points out that, because the Quran had been a driving force in the spread of the Arabic language, that scholars actually used the Quran as the basis for formalizaiton.

Arabic wasn't a "global" language until after the Muslim conquests began.  There was no reason to translate the Bible into Arabic... because the Arabs conducted world-wide business in OTHER languages or through translators (just like everyone else).

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The Quran does in fact contain a substantial amount of evidence for the active presence of presumably Arabic-speaking Christians in Muhammad's and the Quran's own ambience.  The crucial issue in this connection, however, is the hermenutical frame of refrence the interpreter brings to the construction he puts on the Quranic evidence.  The hypothesis suggested here is that the Quran's Christians were Arabic speakers whose Christianity was representative of the confessional identities of the Syriac-speaking Christian communities living on the central Arabian periphery.  it would have been transmitted among the Arabs initially by bilingual, Aramaic and Arabic-speaking tribal organizations that fostered the interests of the large neighboring Roman and Persian empires...

Both quotations are from the book "The Bible in Arabic" by Sidney H. Griffith - Princeton University Press (c) 2013