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Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« on: June 16, 2011, 08:10:20 AM »
[edit add 1-12-2015] As in so many other embarrassing subjects in Islam, there is no shortage of denial of the following fatwah. However a web search for - mufa’khathat - will pretty quickly confirm that the practice exists. [end edit]

Sorry about the X-rated content. If you don't want to be disturbed, by thoroughly disgusting and unimaginably vile content regarding child abuse in Islam, I recommend you move to another topic now. Otherwise, please start with this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1IzQxa6m0M

I recommend you download the video as YouTube has been known to remove and ban truth, even when spoken by Muslims themselves, simply because Muslims complain about it.

In the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBHEy76W6c an Imam recounts a visit by Khomeini to Iraq, and talks about Khomeini suggesting they stay at an Iraqi host's house in the city of Utaifiyyah, in which Khomeini pressed a 4-5 year old girl into a temporary "marriage" or "Misyar". He then sexually violated and sodomized the little girl "all night" "from the front as well as from the back even while she screams and cries".

After having earlier referred to the little girl as "beautiful", the imam delivering the account feigns disgust regarding Khomeini's treatment of the little girl, but then declares "How could he have a temporary marriage with this little girl, when more grown up girls were around in the house. He could have had a temporary marriage with one of them."
He thus seemed to indicate that he didn't see anything wrong, except that the girl could have been a little older, and he must necessarily agree that 9 years is old enough, because that was how old Aisha was when Muhammad was doing her.

The video also offers valuable insight into the power of Imams trumping the common sense, reason, conscience and surviving shreds of humanity, if any, of their subordinates that are in bondage to Satan.

Khomeini
Q "What do you think about temporary marriage to a little child?"
A "Sayyid, my answer is your answer. Your action is the right one, you are the imam. You can make the verdict. It is not possible for somebody like me to differ from your opinion."

It's easy to see the purely reprobate nature of the monsters involved, particularly since rescuing the little girl when he heard her "screams and cries" "all night", would seem to have not even occurred to this reprobate coward, or at least he certainly took no action to rescue the girl. Yet the little girl was obviously scarred for life as a result of the rape. How many more are there like her, since it takes the testimony of 4 men to bring a conviction of rape, against a Muslim. Particularly since the victim of rape is perceived as having dishonored her family, so it sometimes ends in her murder by the hand of her own father.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?board=54.0

It's all because Muhammad set the standard for sex with children in Islam, having married Aisha when she was 6 and consummating that marriage when she was just a 9 year old child, and he was a 53 year old. No honest Muslim will deny their prophets urges and desires in this regard, as his self-serving alter-ego "Allah" lavished on him all the wives he wanted - but only for him.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=466.0

Prior to Muhammad's stand-alone "religion" sex with children likely wasn't an acceptable practice among Arabs, any more than it was any other culture then, or today.

Even the Hadith suggests this "When Abu Bakr came, Khawlah repeated what she had said. He replied, "She is [like] his brother’s daughter. Would she be appropriate for him?"
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2589.msg10752#msg10752

While I had seen this debate video some time ago, I thought it was an aberration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht0eJaXc2Is However yesterday a YouTuber brought up the subject and I was made to realize that this practice isn't obscure at all, and I did a search and found the opening video above that discusses this in the context of "temporary marriages" in Islam - that is, fornication and adultery masked by a false facade of "marriage".

While we certainly wouldn't want anyone to judge the Gospel of the perfect and sinless Messiah, by the vast majority of folks that have deceived themselves into believing they are Christians, the behavior of the Islamic self-proclaimed "prophet" Muhammad is the very best way to judge Islam. Judging the behavior of the fruit of Islam is fair game as well.

According to some Muslims, sex with 1 day, week, or year old infants, is permissible and is accomplished by "thighing".
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7l_XFPpNf3oA8ClXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyNzY2Njc5BF9yAzIEYW8DMQRjc3JjcHZpZANoT1VhMDBvRzd2NUMuZnZoVGRaWFdRRnRRaUFLV2szNkZOY0FDTTJjBGZyA3lmcC10LTcwMQRmcjIDc2J0bgRuX2dwcwM0BG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDdGhpZ2hpbmcgYWlzaGEEc2FvAzIEdnRlc3RpZANWSVAwNzg-?p=thighing+aisha&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=

Khomeini on sex with children and the rules on injured children. "If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life." "But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."

Here's another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RMUyAy9zU0

http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/03/the-ayatollah-khomeinis-booksex-with-children-and-animals/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrir-ol-vasyleh

A Muslim on sex allowed by "Allah" with a 1 year old girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht0eJaXc2Is

There is no plausible deniability since those are Muslims - even imams - in those YouTubes discussing rape and mufa’khathat of children. However fundamental Muslims may not consider it rape since the father of the 4-5 year old girl "gave" her to Khomeini to abuse, like "Allah" "gave" to Muhammad 6 year old Aisha, sex slaves captured as "spoils of war", and "Allah" also "gave" him 1/5 of all the property he and his boys stole from others.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=608.0

"Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the one after whom there is no [further] prophet. After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad Al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar). The inquirer asked the following:

It has become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children (mufa’khathat literally translated means "placing between the thighs" which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars knowing full well that the prophet, the peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, also practiced the "thighing" of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be please with her.

After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:
It has not been the practice of the Muslims throughout the centuries to resort to this unlawful practice that has come to our countries from pornographic movies that the kufar (infidels) and enemies of Islam send. As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his male [member] between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers."

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7l_XFPpNf3oA8ClXNyoA?p=HIS+MALE+MEMBER+BETWEEN+HER+THIGHS&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=

http://islamandtheabuseofwomen.blogspot.com/2011/12/thighing-of-female-children-in-islam.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20131215231003/http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/islam/TEUGJF3UEB38R1S7C

Isn't that just like Islamic leaders? They blame western culture (and I for one have never heard of, nor could have even imagined this despicable horror before), for this - what they admit is a "wide spread" custom among Muslims - even though they later admit that their own "prophet" engaged in the behavior! Even crediting Muhammad's super-human "member" as his excuse!
That's akin to when they blame the Israeli Jews, for Islamic rape, murder, mayhem and misery, perpetrated all around the world. With 2 million killed in the Sudan alone!
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/great_tribulation.htm

Some claim there is no hadith making this practice lawful, but are there any Hadith making it unlawful? How did the term "mufa’khathat" come to be? From a Hollywood movie? Are there statutes on the books in Islamic countries outlawing this "widespread" practice? If so, how many men have ever been arrested for it? Does it require 4 witnesses to bring charges against the perpetrator as in the case of rape?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/002-rape_adultery.htm
Some excuse Muhammad by claiming this practice is unlawful for followers, as the first paragraph above suggests, but that certainly wouldn't be the only thing that was lawful for Muhammad but unlawful for his followers - like having more than 4 wives, or getting more than one's proportionate share of looted "booty". If this practice does not have roots in Muhammadanism then how did it come to "become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings"?

The fact that a committee had to "study the issue" in the first place, and a religious decree had to be issued in order for Muslims to know whether the practice of thighing children or even infants is right or wrong, tells us everything we need to know about what Muhammadanism does to the minds of Muhammad's followers.

After reading "has become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings" it occurred to me to revisit this video. I believed the reports that the children weren't actually getting married, but in light of this practice it tends to get one shuddering about what might have gone on after night fell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbydRGEkKIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CDgjogUYFY
While looking for it I found this one where couples are paid $500 to get married. I wonder how much of that $500 "brides" like the one at the end of the video got to spend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYmtaXQHEtw
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071221232108AAppsxu

A YouTube gal on temporary marriage - for an hour - in Sunni and Shia.

Divorcing a pre-pubescent wife, as well as thighing of Aisha by Muhammad, and thighing by Muslims allowed, straight from the Hadith in Islamic websites.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam/browse_thread/thread/2b9d06f5cd3e055e/487581a7d6af8c00?lnk=raot&pli=1

Muhammad's child bride standard is copied by his devoted followers in the world today.





The above poor little child is still playing peek-a-boo!

Muslims are stuck believing that Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah" "gave" his child bride Aisha to him, just as they are stuck having to believe "Allah" "gave" Muhammad and his boys sex slaves as "spoils of war - booty", just as they must believe in Muhammad's unwitnessed account of having ridden on a flying donkey-mule one night.

Again, sorry for the X-rated content, but I thought this information important enough to add to the long list of Muhammad's reprobate behavior, that his followers - that still have consciences - should see in regard to the license their "prophet" gave their brethren. When will they finally be convicted by having to constantly excuse away the conspicuously reprobate behavior of the "prophet" of Islam, who WAS AS MUCH THE OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah, as his "religious" invention is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=148.0
http://www.brotherpete.com/

If Christians and Jews don't become engaged in this epic battle, we will only have ourselves to blame, for the bleak future prospects we leave behind for our children.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1143.0

Even atheists and agnostics (who Muslims kill out of hand rather than allowing them to live in dhimmitude), can become engaged in the battle through a purely secular standpoint, by focusing on the history of Mecca and origins of Islam and it's rituals.
http://www.historyofmecca.com
http://www.brotherpete.com/hajj_umrah.htm
If you do not become engaged it will be your children and/or grandchildren, that will be compelled to prostrate themselves to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca and pray in the vain repetitions of the heathen, 5 times a day.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=1143.0

For Christians the scriptures not only define the enemy, but also describe the armament we are to use, to engage it. As is made so clear through all of the evil of Islam explored in this forum...

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

There are tracts for Muslims on the last four websites listed at the bottom of this post. Why not leave one laying around where one of Muhammad's followers might find it? Particularly from the more Muslim friendly http://www.islamandthetruth.com website.
There are also instructions for making your own.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/free_bible_tracts.htm

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 08:32:12 AM »
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
I was accompanying the Prophet on a journey and was riding a slow camel that was lagging behind the others… When we approached Medina, I started going (towards my house). The Prophet said, "Where are you going?" I said, "I have married a widow." He said, "Why have you not married A VIRGIN TO FONDLE with each other?" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 38, Number 504)

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:
While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a YOUNG GIRL so that you may play with her and she with you?" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 16)

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron." He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for THE VIRGINS AND FOR FONDLING THEM?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 10:54:37 AM »
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam/browse_thread/thread/2b9d06f5cd3e055e/487581a7d6af8c00?lnk=raot&pli=1

Google the word "thighing" and learn just how sick Islam really is!!

Here is a youtube video to get you started:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RMUyAy9zU0

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"Thighing" is an Islamic practice still followed today even in Muslim
communities in the U.S. and Britain:

Regarding the practice of "thighing", the masterbating between the legs of a
female infant or actually sodomizing her, Islamic clerics have this to say:

Pedophilia decrees from www.islamic-fatwa.net

Question 1809

After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs
(religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of
the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421
(Islamic calendar)

Question: 'It has become widespread these days, and especially during
weddings, the habit of mufa'khathat of the children.
(mufa'khathat -
literally translated, it means "placing between the thighs" which means
placing the male member between the thighs of a child).

What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the
peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the "thighing" of Aisha - the
mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ?

Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of
age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age.
That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and
massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other
men.

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand
Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However,
he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia).
If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible
for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one
of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the
girl's
sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and
at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying
his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

"It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is
still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs,
and to kiss her."

Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12

"Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting
married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the
intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and
boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to
listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?"

"The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET OF ISLAM

PART 1 MECCA

An Arab is regarded as an old man, a sheik, when he is fifty.

Muhammad married Aisha when she was six years old in Mecca and she joined
him in Medina three years later when he was 53. He began having sex with
Aisha when she was nine years old and still playing with dolls.

This is the original story told by the ONLY valid biographers of Muhammad
and Islam, Ibn Ishaq and Tabari, and the hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim.
Refer also to the works of the Qur'an commentators Ibn Kathir and Ibn
Qayyim. (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira
al-Nabawiyya), Volume II, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, Garnet
Publishing Limited, UK. The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization,
2000. pp. 93-94)
(Ibn Qayyim Al-Juaziyyah, Zad-ul Ma'ad fi Hadyi Khairi-l 'Ibad (Provisions
for the Hereafter, From the Guidance of Allah's Best Worshipper) translated
by Jalal Abualrub, [Madinah Publishers & Distributors, December 2000] Volume
I, pp. 157-158)

Muhammad said that he had dreamed of Aisha before demanding her from her
father, and his own brother in Islam, Abu Bakr, claiming special 'prophets
rights' when Abu Bakr was reluctant to give her to him.

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 235: Narrated 'Aisha: That the Prophet
said to her, "You have been shown to me twice in my dreams. I saw you
pictured on a piece of silk and someone said to me, 'This is your wife.'
When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is
from Allah, it will be done."

Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu
Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother!"

The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Marriage to a female already offered to another was illegal in Arab law. Abu
Bakr had already arranged for Aisha to marry Djubayr Mutim.

Muhammad married 'A'isha in Mecca when she was a child of six and lived with
her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he
married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her
four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad)
translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, p. 792)
Tabari VII:7 "The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the
Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six."

Tabari IX:128 "When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not
yet ready for consummation." [The History of Al-Tabari: The Foundation of
the Community] translated by M.V. McDonald annotated by W. Montgomery Watt
[State University of New York Press, Albany 1987], Volume VII, pp. 6-7) (The
History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and
annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany
1990], Volume IX, pp. 129-130)

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija
died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for
two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years
of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 10:59:59 AM »
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:COBa-wDrtkYJ:crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/mufa-khathat-cleaning-mess-up.html+mufa%27khathat&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

From Bukhari

231:
Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar:
I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. "

232:
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them.

233:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them.


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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 11:03:08 AM »
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

Sexual Perversion in Islam

by IE Blog

05 May, 2007
Pedophilia

Let me begin with a quote from a fatwa by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.

    "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."

You need not fear that your Muslim male baby-sitter will rape your 7-year-old daughter. If he is a good MuslimMullah_kissing_boy_1 he will only sodomize her. If he does force his penis into her tiny vagina he is obligated to pay for any surgical repairs that may be required. If those repairs are deemed insufficient you may work out a financial settlement to compensate you for his trivial infraction. No big deal. Muslim boys will be Muslim boys. And, after all, she is only a girl.

Other forms of sexual abuse inflicted on children by Muslim male family members include fondling of genitals, coercing a child to fondle the abuser's genitals, masturbation with the child as either participant or observer, oral sex, anal or vaginal penetration by penis, finger or any other object. Another technique used by Muslim men is called "thighing". The child's legs are pressed together and the abuser inserts his penis between the thighs of the little boy or girl. As this was how Mohammed had sex with his wife, Aisha, from the time she was six years old the practice, of course, was approved of by Ayatollah Khomeini who in his Little Green Book asserted “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Yes, indeed, you can be a good Muslim while copulating with the thighs of an infant. An Arab woman vigorously denounces this vile practice in the following video clip from Bahrain TV.  Her denunciation of the "thighing" of infants and young girls comes towards the end of the interview.

This practice flourishes in Muslim countries where women are ruthlessly oppressed and normal sexual development systematically suppressed. That would include the Arab world, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Deny men wholesome and natural sexual outlets and they will find unwholesome and unnatural alternatives.

The Grand Ayatollah's full ruling on marriage can be found here.  The institution of "temporary marriage" appears to be designed to facilitate prostitution.  A USA Today article tells the story.

Homosexuality

Islam has the effect of denying Muslim boys and girls the opportunity to develop their sexuality in a normal, wholesome fashion. The public mixing of sexes is prohibited by Islam although it may be tolerated by the secular governments of most Muslim nations. Denied the opportunity to have normal heterosexual experiences during adolescence and frequently the victims of sexual abuse by male relatives while they were growing up it is no wonder that Muslims are much more likely than infidels to find romance and sexual gratification in homosexual relationships. The following excerpt from a piece published in a gay and lesbian publication gives one a notion of Muslim sexuality in Saudi Arabia.

    "Ibrahim bin Abdullah bin Ghaith, the head of the religious police (the Committee for the Prevention of Vice and the Promotion of Virtue) acknowledged, in unusually tempered language, that there are gay Saudis, while also speaking of the need "to educate the young" about this "vice". But he denied media reports that gay and lesbian relationships were the norm in the strictly segregated schools and colleges, that homosexuality "is spreading".

    In an unprecedented two-page special investigation, the daily newspaper Okaz said lesbianism was "endemic" among schoolgirls. It justified the article with a saying of the Prophet's wife Ayeshathat "there should be no shyness in religion". The article told of lesbian sex in school lavatories, girls stigmatised after refusing the advances of their fellow students, and teachers complaining that none of the girls were willing to change their behaviour.

    Mr Ghaith dismissed a suggestion that he should send his "enforcers" to investigate. Armed with sticks, they routinely hunt down men and women in public they suspect may not be directly related. "This perversion is found in all countries," he told Okaz. "The number [of homosexuals] here is small ..." That assessment is contradicted by teachers and students who say that, in the absence of other outlets, a "gay" subculture has inevitably flourished among youth.

    "A particularly beautiful boy always gets top marks in the exams because he's some teacher's favourite," said Mohammed, an English teacher in a government high school in Riyadh. "On the other hand, I know many older boys who deliberately flunked their final exams so they can stay ... with their younger sweethearts."

    Ahmed, 19, a student at a private college in Jeddah, said there was no shame in having a boyfriend in his private high school. Although he firmly rejected the label "gay", he admitted that he now has a "special friend" in college, too. "It's those who don't have a boy who are ashamed to admit it. We introduce our boy to our friends as 'al walid hagi' [the boy who belongs to me]. At the beginning of term, we always check out the new boys to see which are the most 'helu' [sweet] and think of ways to get to know them."

Gay marriage is not the contemporary invention of decadent Western civilization. The Egyptian city of Siwa has for centuries legitimized and celebrated marriages between Muslim men. No other community has done more to suppress heterosexual behavior thereby making homosexuality the norm. A gay cruising guide to Siwa provides both historical background and tips on finding gay sex partners in that city -- truly a no-brainer. Gay marriage is also practiced in Afghanistan. News reports documenting that fact and others about rampant Afghan homosexuality can be found here. Paradoxical though it may be, Islam calls for the severe punishment of homosexuality while at the same time working diligently to make that forbidden practice more attractive. An excellent analysis can be found here.

If you have a particular interest in the Islamic persecution of homosexuals al-bab.com is a good place to pursue it further. As this form of barbarity is inflicted on Muslims by Muslims and is relatively rare I will not dwell on the matter much further. The overwhelming majority of homosexuals who have been murdered by Muslims died because they were infidels. Count the millions murdered and multiply by whatever percentage incidence of homosexuality you fancy. You will get a very, very large number in return.

Goat300 Bestiality

Is there a proper Muslim way to have sex with animals? Indeed, there is! Guidelines for sex with animals can be found in the writings of Ayatollah Khomeini. Two excerpts from his writings serve to clarify the matter.

"A man can have sex with sheep, cows and camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." Don't the buyers deserve a discount of some kind?

Khomeini's "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned." What if it was really good and invites another lap or two? Must animals always be one-night stands?


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Muhammad and Aisha Revisited:
An Examination of Muhammad’s Marriage to a Prepubescent Girl And Its Moral Implications

Sam Shamoun

Not only Christians, not only Westerners, but many people from various cultures are troubled when they discover that Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, married a nine-year-old girl named Aisha. Some go so far as to accuse Muhammad of being a pedophile, using such emotive language as "child molester" to describe Muhammad for marrying a young prepubescent girl.

This has led many a Muslim to either reject the traditions which document Aisha’s young age when she married Muhammad, or to come up with some type of moral justification defending Muhammad’s marriage to a minor. Our focus here is to examine what the Muslim sources say about Muhammad’s marriage to Aisha and also address the common Muslim arguments that are raised either defending the story or rejecting it as simply erroneous.

We will break down our response into two parts. In this first section, we will present the data from recognized Muslim sources (primarily Sunni sources) in order to see what they say in regard to Aisha’s age at the time of her marriage. We will also be raising some other points that either directly or indirectly relate to the issue of Aisha’s young age at the time of her marriage.

In the second section, we will try to interact with the typical Muslim arguments that are often raised in relation to this topic.


The Islamic Evidence

We now present the Islamic data showing that Aisha was a girl of nine when Muhammad consummated his marriage to her. All bold, capital and underlined emphasis is ours.

SAHIH AL-BUKHARI

    Narrated Aisha:
    The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)

    Narrated Hisham's father:
    Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)

    Narrated 'Aisha:
    Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 140; see also Number 139)

    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

SAHIH MUSLIM

    'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3309; see also 3310)

    'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

SUNAN ABU DAWUD

    Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116)

    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
    The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. According to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4915)

    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to kiss her and suck her tongue when he was fasting. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2380)

SUNAN NASA‘I

    … When Hadrat Aisha passed nine years of marriage life, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) fell in mortal sickness… ‘A’isha was eighteen years of age at the time when the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) passed away and she remained a widow for forty-eight years till she died at the age of sixty-seven. She saw the rules of four Caliphs in her lifetime. She died on Ramadan 58 A.H. during the Caliphate of Hadrat Amir Mu‘awiya… (Sunan Nasa'i: English translation with Arabic Text, compiled by Imam Abu Abd-ur-Rahman Ahmad Nasa'i, rendered into English by Muhammad Iqbal Siddiqui [Kazi Publication, 121-Zulqarnain Chambers, Gampat Road, Lahore, Pakistan; first edition, 1994], Volume 1, p. 108)

SUNAN IBN-I-MAJAH

    1876. ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) is reported to have said: Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) contracted marriage with me while I was (yet) a six years [sic] old girl. Then we arrived at Medina and stayed with Banu Harith b. Khazraj. I fell victim to fever; then my hair (of the head fell off (and became scattered). Then they became plenty and hanged down upto [sic] the earlobes. My mother ‘Umm Ruman came to me while I was (playing) in a swing alongwith [sic] my play-mates. She (the mother) called me loudly. I went to her and I did not know what he [sic] wanted. She seized my hand and stopped me at the door of the house and I was hearing [sic] violently until the agitation of my heart was over. Then she took some water and wiped it over my face and head. Then she admitted me to the house when some woman [sic] of Ansar were present in the house. They said, "You have entered with blessings and good fortune." Then she (the mother) entrusted me to them. So they embellished me and nothing frightened me but Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) (when he came there) in the morning and they (the women) entrusted me to him. On that day, I was a nine years [sic] old girl."

    1877. Abdullah (Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, "The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) married ‘A’isha while she was a seven years [sic] old girl and took him [sic] to his house as a bride when she was nine years old and he parted with her (after his demise) when she was eighteen years old."

    According to Al-Zawa‘id its isnad is sahih in accordance with the condition prescribed by Bukhari, but munqata because Abu ‘Ubaida did not hear from his father. Shu‘ba Abu Hatim and Ibn Hibban mentioned him amongst the authentic and reliable authorities. Tirmidhi in al-Jami’ and al-Mazzi in al-Atraf (has expressed the same opinion). Nasa‘i has transmitted this hadith in al-Sughra from the hadith ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her). (Sunan Ibn-I-Majah, Imam Abdullah Muhammad B. Yazid Ibn-I-Maja Al-Qazwini, English version by Muhammad Tufail Ansari [Kazi Publications, 121-Zulqarnain Chambers, Gampat Road, Lahore Pakistan, first edition, 1995], volume III, pp. 133-134)

IBN HISHAM

    He married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad), translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, tenth impression 1995], p. 792)

AL-TABARI

    In this year also the Messenger of God consummated his marriage with ‘A’ishah. This was in Dhu al-Qa‘dah (May-June 623) eight months after his arrival in Medina according to some accounts, or in Shawwal (April-May 623) seven months after his arrival according to others. He had married her in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadijah. At that time she was six or, according to other accounts, seven years old.

    According to ‘Ab al-Hamid b. Bayan al-Sukkari- Muhammad b. Yazid- Isma‘il (that is, Ibn Abi Khalid)- ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Abi al-Dahhak- a man from Quraysh- ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Muhammad: ‘Abd Allah b. Safwan together with another person came to ‘A’ishah, and ‘A’ishah said (to the latter), "O so-and-so, have you heard what Hafsah has been saying?" He said, "Yes, O Mother of the Faithful." ‘Abd Allah b. Safwan asked her, "What is that?" She replied, "There are nine special features in me that have not been in any woman, except for what God bestowed on Maryam bt. ‘Imran. By God, I do not say this to exalt myself over any of my companions." "What are these?" he asked. She replied, "The angel brought down my likeness; the Messenger of God married me when I was seven; my marriage was consummated when I was nine; he married me when I was a virgin, no other man having shared me with him; inspiration came to him when he and I were in a single blanket; I was one of the dearest people to him, a verse of the Qur’an was revealed concerning me when the community was almost destroyed; I saw Gabriel when none of his other wives saw him; and he was taken (that is, died) in his house when there was nobody with him but the angel and myself."

    According to Abu Ja‘far (Al-Tabari): The Messenger of God married her, so it is said, in Shawwal, and consummated his marriage to her in a later year, also in Shawwal. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Foundation of the Community, translated by M.V. McDonald annotated by W. Montgomery Watt [State University of New York Press, Albany 1987], Volume VII, pp. 6-7)

    Sa‘id b. Yahya b. Sa‘id al-Umawi- his father- Muhammad b. ‘Amr- Yahya b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Hatib- ‘A’isha: When Khadijah died, Khawlah bt. Hakim b. Umayyah b. al-Awqas, wife of ‘Uthman b. Maz‘un, who was in Mecca, said [to the Messenger of God], "O Messenger of God, will you not marry?" He replied, "Whom?" "A maiden," she said, "if you like, or a non-maiden." He replied, "Who is the maiden?" "The daughter of the dearest creature of God to you," she answered, "‘A’ishah bt. Abi Bakr." He asked, "And who is the non-maiden?" "Sawdah bt. Zam‘ah b. Qays," she replied, "she has [long] believed in you and has followed you." [So the Prophet] asked her to go and propose to them on his behalf.

    She went to Abu Bakr’s house, where she found Umm Ruman, mother of ‘A’ishah, and said, "O Umm Ruman, what a good thing and a blessing has God brought to you!" She said, "What is that?" Khawlah replied, "The Messenger of God has sent me to ask for ‘A’ishah’s hand in marriage on his behalf." She answered, "I ask that you wait for Abu Bakr, for he should be on his way." When Abu Bakr came, Khawlah repeated what she had said. He replied, "She is [like] his brother’s daughter. Would she be appropriate for him?" When Khawlah returned to the Messenger of God and told him about it he said, "Go back to him and say that he is my brother in Islam and that I am his brother [in Islam], so his daughter is good for me." She came to Abu Bakr and told him what the Messenger of God had said. Then he asked her to wait until he returned.

    Umm Ruman said that al-Mut‘im b. ‘Adi had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand for his son, but Abu Bakr had not promised anything. Abu Bakr left and went to Mut‘im while his wife, mother of the son for whom he had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand, was with him. She said, "O son of Abu Quhafah, perhaps we could marry our son to your daughter if you could make him leave his religion and bring him in to the religion which you practice." He turned to her husband al-Mut‘im and said, "What is she saying?" He replied, "She says [what you have heard]." Abu Bakr left, [realizing that] God had [just] removed the problem he had in his mind. He said to Khawlah, "Call the Messenger of God." She called him and he came. Abu Bakr married [‘A’ishah] to him when she was [only] six years old. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, pp. 129-130)

    ‘A’ishah states: We came to Medina and Abu Bakr took up quarters in al-Sunh among the Banu al-Harith b. al-Khazraj. The Messenger of God came to our house and men and women of the Ansar gathered around him. My mother came to me WHILE I WAS BEING SWUNG ON A SWING BETWEEN TWO BRANCHES AND GOT ME DOWN. Jumaymah, my nurse, took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door, she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought [in] while the Messenger of God was sitting on a bed in our house. [My mother] made me sit on his lap and said, "These are your relatives. May God bless you with them and bless them with you!" Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me. Only Sa‘d b. ‘Ubaidah sent a bowl of food which he used to send to the Messenger of God.

    ‘Ali b. Nasr- ‘Abd al-Samad b. ‘Abd al-Warith- ‘Abd al-Warith b. ‘Abd al-Samad- his father- Aban al-‘Attar- Hisham b. ‘Urwah- ‘Urwah: He wrote to ‘Abd al-Malik b. Marwan stating that he had written to him about Khadijah bt. Khuwaylid, asking him about when she died. She died three years or close to that before the Messenger of God’s departure from Mecca, and he married ‘A’ishah after Khadijah’s death. The Messenger of God saw ‘A’ishah twice- [first when] it was said to him that she was his wife (she was six years old at that time), and later [when] he consummated she was nine years old.

    (The report goes back to Hisham b. Muhammad. See above, I, 1766). Then the Messenger of God married ‘A’ishah bt. Abi Bakr, whose name is ‘Atiq b. Abi Quhafah, who is ‘Uthman, and is called ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Uthman b. ‘Amir b. ‘Amir b. Ka‘b b. Sa‘d b. Taym b. Murrah: [The Prophet] married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old, and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died. The Messenger of God did not marry any maiden except her. (The History of al-Tabari, Volume IX, pp. 130-131)

    ‘A’ishah, daughter of Abu Bakr.

    Her mother was Umm Ruman bt. ‘Umayr b. ‘Amr, of the Banu Duhman b. al-Harith b. Ghanm b. Malik b. Kinanah.

    The Prophet married ‘A’ishah in Shawwal in the tenth year after the [beginning of his] prophethood, three years before Emigration. He consummated the marriage in Shawwal, eight months after Emigration. On the day he consummated the marriage with her she was nine years old.

    According to Ibn ‘Umayr [al-Waqidi]- Musa b. Muhammad b. ‘Abd al-Rahman- Raytah- ‘Amrah [bt. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Sa’d]: ‘A’ishah was asked when the Prophet consummated his marriage with her, and she said:

    The Prophet left us and his daughters behind when he emigrated to Medina. Having arrived at Medina, he sent Zayd b. Harithah and his client Abu Rafi’ for us. He gave them two camels and 500 dirhams he had taken from Abu Bakr to buy [other] beasts they needed. Abu Bakr sent with them ‘Abdallah b. Urayqit al-Dili, with two or three camels. He wrote to [his son] ‘Abdallah b. Abi Bakr to take his wife Umm Ruman, together with me and my sister Asma’, al-Zubayr’s wife, [and leave for Medina]. They all left [Medina] together, and when they arrived at Qudayd Zayd b. Harithah bought three camels with those 500 dirhams. All of them then entered Mecca, where they met Talhah b. ‘Ubaydallah on his way to leave town, together with Abu Bakr’s family. So we all left: Zayd b. Harithah, Abu Rafi’, Fatimah, Umm Kulthum, and Sawdah bt. Zam‘ah. Ayd mounted Umm Ayman and [his son] Usamah b. Zayd on a riding beast; ‘Abdallah b. Abi Bakr took Umm Ruman and his two sisters, and Talhah b. ‘Ubaydallah came [too]. We all went together, and when we reached Bayd in Tamanni my camel broke loose. I was sitting in the litter together with my mother, and she started exclaiming "Alas, my daughter, alas [you] bride"; then they caught up with our camel, after it had safely descended the Lift. We then arrived at Medina, and I stayed with Abu Bakr’s children, and [Abu Bakr] went to the Prophet. The latter was then busy building the mosque and our homes around it, where he [later] housed his wives. We stayed in Abu Bakr’s house for a few days; then Abu Bakr asked [the Prophet] "O Messenger of God, what prevents you from consummating the marriage with your wife?" The Prophet said "The bridal gift (sadaq)." Abu Bakr gave him the bridal gift, twelve and a half ounces [of gold], and the Prophet sent for us. He consummated our marriage in my house, the one where I live now and where he passed away. (The History of Al-Tabari: Biographies of the Prophet’s Companions and Their Successors, translated by Ella Landau-Tasseron [State University of New York Press, Albany 1998], Volume XXXIX, pp. 171-173; underline emphasis ours)

IBN KATHIR

    Yunus b. Bukayr stated, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father who said, "The Messenger of God (SAAS) married ‘A’isha three years after (the death of) Khadija. At that time (of the contract) ‘A’isha had been a girl of six. When he married her she was nine. The Messenger of God (SAAS) died when ‘A’isha was a girl of eighteen. "

    This tradition is considered gharib (unique in this line).

    Al-Bukhari had related, from ‘Ubayd b. Isma‘il, from Abu Usama, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, who said, "Khadija died three years before the emigration of the Prophet (SAAS). He allowed a couple of years or so to pass after that, and then he contracted marriage with ‘A’isha when she was six, thereafter consummating marriage with her when she was nine years old."

    What ‘Urwah stated here is mursal, incomplete, as we mentioned above, but in its content it must be judged as muttasil, uninterrupted.

    His statement, "He contracted marriage with ‘A’isha when she was six, thereafter consummating marriage with her when she was nine" IS NOT DISPUTED BY ANYONE, and is well established in the sahih collections of traditions and elsewhere.

    He consummated marriage with her during the second year following the emigration to Medina.

    His contracting marriage with her took place some three years after Khadija’s death, though there is disagreement over this.

    The hafiz Ya‘qub b. Sufyan stated, "Al-Hajjaj related to us, that Hammad related to him, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, from ‘A’isha, who said, ‘The Messenger of God (SAAS), contracted marriage with me (after) Khadija’s death and before his emigration from Mecca, when I was six years old. After we arrived in Medina some women came to me while I was playing on a swing; my hair was like that of a boy. They dressed me up and put make-up on me, then took me to the Messenger of God (SAAS), and he consummated our marriage. I was a girl of nine.’"

    The statement here "muttawaffa Khadija", "Khadija’s death" has to mean that it was shortly thereafter. Unless, that is, the word, ba‘da, "after", originally preceded this phrase and had been omitted from the account. The statement made by Yunus b. Bukayr and Abu Usama from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, is, therefore, not refuted. But God knows best. (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume II, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Muneer Fareed [Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, first paper edition, 2000], pp. 93-94)

IBN QAYYIM

    Next, the Prophet… married Um Abdallah, Aishah, as-Siddiqah (the truthful one), daughter of as-Siddiq (the truthful one) Abu Bakr ibn Abi Qu’hafah, whom Allah has exonerated from above the seven heavens. ‘Aishah bint Abu Bakr was the beloved wife of the Prophet… The angel showed Aishah… to the Prophet… while she was wrapped in a piece of silk cloth, before he married her, and said to him. "This is your wife." The Prophet… married Aishah… during the lunar month of Shawwal, when she was six, and consummated the marriage in the first year after the Hijrah, in the month of Shawwal, when she was nine. The Prophet… did not marry any virgin, except Aishah… and the revelation never came to him while he was under the blanket with any of his wives, except Aishah. (Ibn Qayyim Al-Juaziyyah, Zad-ul Ma’ad fi Hadyi Khairi-l ‘Ibad (Provisions for the Hereafter, From the Guidance of Allah’s Best Worshipper), translated by Jalal Abualrub, edited by Alaa Mencke & Shaheed M. Ali [Madinah Publishers & Distributors, Orlando, Fl: First edition, December 2000], Volume I, pp. 157-158)

MARTIN LINGS

    During the same year that followed Khadijah’s death, the Prophet dreamed that he saw a man who was carrying someone wrapped in a piece of silk. The man said to him: "This is thy wife, so uncover her." The Prophet lifted the silk and there was ‘A’ishah. But ‘A’ishah was only six years old, and he had passed his fiftieth year. Moreover Abu Bakr had promised her to Mut‘im for his son Jubayr. The Prophet simply said to himself: "If this be from God, He will bring it to pass." …

    Meantime Abu Bakr approached Mut‘im, who was persuaded without difficulty to forgo the marriage of ‘A’ishah to his son; and, some months after the marriage of Sawdah, ‘A’ishah also became the Prophet’s wife, through a marriage contracted by him and her father, at which she herself was not present. She said afterwards, that she had her first inkling of her new status when one day she was playing with her friends outside, not far from their house, and her mother came and too her by the hand and led her indoors, telling her that henceforth she must not go out to play, and that her friends must come to her instead. ‘A’ishah dimly guessed the reason, though her mother did not immediately tell her that she was married; and apart from having to play in their courtyard instead of in the roads, her life continued as before. (Lings, Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions, International, Ltd.; Rochester Vermont, 1983], pp. 105-106)

    The Prophet and his daughters now went to live with Sawda in her new house; and after a month or two it was decided that ‘A’ishah’s wedding should take place. She was then only nine years old, a child of remarkable beauty, as might have been expected from her parentage…

    Small preparations were made for the wedding- not enough, at any rate for ‘A’ishah to have had a sense of a great and solemn occasion, and shortly before they were due to leave the house she had slipped out into the courtyard to play with her passing friend. In her own words: "I was playing on a see-saw and my long streaming hair was disheveled. They came and took me from my play and made me ready."

    Abu Bakr had bought some fine red-striped cloth from Bahrain and it had been made into a wedding-dress for her. In this they now clothed her. Then her mother took her to the newly built house where some women of the Helpers were waiting for her outside the door. They greeted her with the words "For good and for happiness- may all be well!" and led her into the presence of the Prophet. He stood their smiling and combed her hair and decked her with ornaments. Unlike his other marriages, at this there was no wedding feast… then they all went their ways, and the bridegroom and the bride were left together.

    For the last three years scarcely a day had passed by without one or more of ‘A’ishah’s friends coming to play with her in the courtyard adjoining her father’s house. Her removal to the Prophet’s house changed nothing in this respect. Friends now came every day to visit her in her own apartment – new friends made since her arrival in Medina and also some of the old ones whose parents, like hers, had emigrated. "I would be playing with my dolls," she said, "with the girls who were my friends, and the Prophet would come in and they would steal out of the house and he would go out after them and bring them back, for he was pleased for my sake to have them there." Sometimes he would say "Stay where ye are" before they had time to move. He would also join in their games sometimes, FOR HE LOVED CHILDREN [Sam- meaning Aisha was only a child like them] and had often played with his own daughters. The dolls of puppets had many different roles. "One day," said ‘A’ishah, "the Prophet came in when I was playing with the dolls and he said: ‘O ‘A’ishah, whatever game is this?’ I said: ‘It is Solomon’s horses,’ and he laughed." But sometimes as he came in he would simply screen himself with his cloak so as not to disturb them. (Ibid., pp. 132-134)

SAIF-UR-RAHMAN AL-MUBARAKPURI

    3. 'Aishah bint Abu Bakr: He married her in the eleventh year of Prophethood, a year after his marriage to Sawdah, and two years and five months before Al-Hijra. She was six years old when he married her. However, he did not consummate the marriage with her till Shawwal seven months after Al-Hijra, and that was in Madinah. She was nine then. She was the only virgin he married, and the most beloved creature to him. As a woman she was the most learnèd woman in jurisprudence. (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum (THE SEALED NECTAR) Biography of the Noble Prophet, [Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers & Distributors, First Edition 1995], "The Prophetic Household", p. 485; online source; underline emphasis ours)

And here is a religious fatwah that mentions Muhammad’s physical relations with Aisha:

    Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the one after whom there is no [further] prophet.
    After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad Al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar). The inquirer asked the following:

    It has become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children (mufa’khathat literally translated means "placing between the thighs" which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars knowing full well that the prophet, the peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, also practiced the "thighing" of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be please with her.

    After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:
    It has not been the practice of the Muslims throughout the centuries to resort to this unlawful practice that has come to our countries from pornographic movies that the kufar (infidels) and enemies of Islam send. As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed HIS [MALE] MEMBER BETWEEN HER THIGHS AND MASSAGED IT SOFTLY, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers.. (Source: http://www.sout-al-haqe.com/pal/musical/mofakhaza.ram)

The following link provides independent evidence that the above fatwah does indeed exist:
http://www.islamic-fatwa.net/viewtopic.php?TopicID=8330

In the above link Islamic scholar Dr Ahmad Al-Hajj Al-Kurdi comments on the fatwah in question. He is responding to a person who is asking whether or not the fatwah actually exists, and whether or not Muhammad committed this action. In response he says that Muhammad most probably did this after he consummated the marriage at 9 rather than when she was 6. His point of contention therefore is concerning when Muhammad did this to the little girl, and not whether or not he did it.

We also read:

    Fatwah 23672:

    The inquirer asks: "My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How can I enjoy her sexually?"

    The imam answers him by saying: "Do not harm her if she cannot take intercourse but you may hug her, kiss her, and ejaculate between her legs" i.e. "thigh" her, as the fatwah in question indicates.
    (Source: http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Istisharat/ShowFatwa.php?lang=A&Id=23672&Option=FatwaId&x=40&y=13)

Here is another:

    Question:

    Can you explain to me the thing called "thighing" also pronounced "mufa

    Answer:

    ... The term Mufaakhathah means to have foreplay with the wife in between her thighs. It is reported in one narration that when the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, wanted to enjoy one of his wives who was in menstruation, he would put a piece of cloth on her vagina (i.e. cover it). [Ibn Maajah].
    The author of Faydh Al-Qadeer interpreted the expression 'if he wanted to enjoy to mean having all permissible foreplay but avoiding the vagina [or the anus], like in between her thighs (i.e. Mufaakhathah).
    Allah Knows best.

    Fatawa Issuing Body : Islam Web
    Author/Scholar : Dr. Abdullah Al-faqih
    Date Of Issue : 1427 (Fatwa Management - World Fatwa Management and Research Institute, Fatawa: MEANING OF MUFAAKHATHAH; online sources: http://infad.kuim.edu.my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3423, http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/ShowFatwa.php?lang=E&Id=92051&Option=FatwaId)

The disgusting action which the fatwah describes is allowed to all other Sunni Muslims as can be seen by the following three fatwas:

    http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Istisharat/ShowFatwa.php?lang=A&Id=23672&Option=FatwaId&x=48&y=16
    http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Istisharat/ShowFatwa.php?lang=A&Id=13190&Option=FatwaId&x=54&y=11
    http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Istisharat/ShowFatwa.php?lang=A&Id=3907&Option=FatwaId&x=46&y=11

There is also a Shia reference condoning the practice. In Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's book, "Tahrir Al wasila," p. 241, issue number 12, it says:

    "It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his male member between her thighs, and to kiss her."

Aisha wasn’t the only young girl Muhammad had eyes for:

    (Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.'  But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab… (Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, translated by A. Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi], p. 311)

    Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636)


Summary Analysis

According to official Sunni Muslim sources, Muhammad married Aisha when she was around the age of six or seven. This marriage took place three years before Muhammad’s migration to what eventually became known as Medina. Muhammad consummated the marriage to Aisha approximately four years later, or in the second year of his arrival to Medina when the latter was nine years old.

The Muslim sources generally date Muhammad’s migration to Medina (known as the Hijrah) in the year 622-23 AD. And these sources also say that Muhammad was born in the Year of the Elephant, the year 570 AD. This means that Muhammad was fifty years old when he married Aisha, and roughly fifty-four years old when he actually slept with her.

The problem is not merely that Aisha was nine when Muhammad married her, but that Muhammad was a man who was well into his fifties. Muhammad was old enough to be Aisha’s grandfather.

Aisha was the only virgin that Muhammad ever married. Muhammad gave the following reason for marrying young virgin girls:

    Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
    I was accompanying the Prophet on a journey and was riding a slow camel that was lagging behind the others… When we approached Medina, I started going (towards my house). The Prophet said, "Where are you going?" I said, "I have married a widow." He said, "Why have you not married a virgin to fondle with each other?" I said, "My father died and left daughters, so I decided to marry a widow (an experienced woman) (to look after them)." He said, "Well done." … (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 38, Number 504)

    Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:
    While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 16)

    Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
    When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron." He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins AND FOR FONDLING THEM?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)

Hence, Muhammad’s comments indicate that his reason for marrying Aisha while a young virgin is so that he could fondle and sexually play with her!

Muhammad also had eyes for an infant girl, promising to marry her when she grows up. Ibn Ishaq places this event during the time of the Battle of Badr in 624 AD when Muhammad was roughly 54 years old. (Guillaume, pp. 310-312)

Now let us be generous and assume that Muhammad would have waited for the girl to reach the age of ten to marry her, Muhammad would have been at least 62 years old at that time! [1]

So here we have two instances where a man well over fifty has his eyes on two prepubescent girls! Now this is a problem.

Beyond even this, Muhammad died when Aisha was eighteen years old, leaving her a widow for the rest of her life. This now brings us to our next section.



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Part 2

Muhammad: A Mercy For All Mankind?

The Quran claims that Muhammad is a mercy for all creatures:

    We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures. S. 21:107 Y. Ali

The case with Aisha is an actual proof that Muhammad was anything but a mercy. For instance, recall that in the above cited traditions Muhammad left Aisha a childless widow at the age of eighteen. What makes this so terrible is that Muhammad passed on a command forbidding anyone from marrying any of his widows!

    O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses, - until leave is given you, - for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation: but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet: he is ashamed to dismiss you, but God is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy God's Apostle, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in God's sight an enormity. S. 33:53 Y. Ali

Ibn Kathir wrote regarding this passage:

    <And it is not (right) for you that you should annoy Allah's Messenger,> "This was revealed concerning a man who wanted to marry one of the wives of the Prophet after he died. A man said to Sufyan, `Was it `A'ishah?' He said, `That is what they said.’" This was also stated by Muqatil bin Hayyan and `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam. He also reported with his chain of narration from As-Suddi that the one who wanted to do this was Talhah bin `Ubaydullah, may Allah be pleased with him, until this Ayah was revealed forbidding that. Hence the scholars were unanimous in stating that it was forbidden for anyone to marry any of the women who were married to the Messenger of Allah at the time when he died, because they are his wives in this world and in the Hereafter, and they are the Mothers of the believers, as stated previously. Allah regarded that as a very serious matter, and issued the sternest of warnings against it… (Source)

One Shia website writes:

    We read in Tafseer Durre Manthur under the commentary "It is not permissible to pain the Prophet that:

    "this verse descended in honour of Talha who expressed his intention of marrying Ayesha in the eventuality of Rasulullah (s) dying".

    We read the remarkable words of Talha in Tafseer Mazhari:

    "Talha said, "Muhammad refrains us from marrying our cousin's, and yet marries our women when we die, after his death we shall marry his wives' after this, the verse descended "You cannot marry the wives of Rasulullah". (Source)

And according to the authors of The True Guidance:

    Al-Suyuti said in Asbab al-Nuzul: "Talha came to one of the Prophet’s wives and talked with her; he was her cousin. But Muhammad said to him: ‘You will never do this again.’ Talha said: ‘But she is my cousin, and Allah knows that neither I nor she said anything abominable.’ But Muhammad said: ‘There is none more jealous than Allah, there is none more jealous than me.’ He left, and after that he said: ‘On the death of Muhammad I will surely marry Aisha after him.’ When Muhammad heard about it, he said: ‘…neither marry his wives after him.’" (The True Guidance (Part Five) Comments on Quranic Verses [Light of Life, P.O. Box 13, A-9503, Villach, Austria, First English edition: 1994], p. 236)

Thus, Muhammad’s jealousy led him to have a "revelation" forbidding his wives from ever remarrying. In this Muhammad contradicts the Holy Bible which states:

    "Do you not know, brothers - for I am speaking to men who know the law - that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives? For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man." Romans 7:1-3 NIV

Aisha wasn’t the only one to suffer this rather unfortunate fate. Muhammad married a Jewess named Safiyyah after the former killed her family at the battle of Khaybar:

    The apostle seized the property piece by piece and conquered the forts one by one as he came to them. The first to fall was the fort of Na‘im; there Mahmud b. Maslama was killed by a millstone which was thrown on him from it; then al-Qamus the fort of B. Abu’l-Huqayq. The apostle took captives from them among whom was Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of Kinana b. al-Rabi’ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself.

    Dihya b. Khalifa al-Kalbi had asked the apostle for Safiya, and when he chose her for himself he gave him her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims. The Muslims ate the meat of the domestic donkeys and the apostle got up and forbade the people to do a number of things which enumerated. (Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, p. 511)

    When the apostle married Safiya in Khaybar or on the way, she having been beautified and combed, and got in a fit state for the apostle by Umm Sulaym d. Milhan mother of Anas b. Malik, the apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd brother of B. al-Najjar passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him and asked him what he meant by his action. He replied, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account.’ They allege that the apostle said ‘O God, preserve Abu Ayyub as he spent the night preserving me.’ (Ibid., pp. 516-517)

    He married Safiya d. Huyay b. Akhtab whom he had captured at Khaybar and chosen for himself. The apostle made a feast of gruel and dates: there was no meat or fat. She had been married to Kinana b. al-Rabi‘ b. Abu’l-Huqayq. (Ibid., pp. 793-794)

    Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz:

    Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there early in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet. He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army.") We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

    Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet. So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-Sawiq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367)

    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    We arrived at Khaibar, and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtaq whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself, and set out with her, and when we reached a place called Sidd-as-Sahba,' Safiya became clean from her menses then Allah's Apostle married her. Hais (i.e. an 'Arabian dish) was prepared on a small leather mat. Then the Prophet said to me, "I invite the people around you." So that was the marriage banquet of the Prophet and Safiya. Then we proceeded towards Medina, and I saw the Prophet, making for her a kind of cushion with his cloak behind him (on his camel). He then sat beside his camel and put his knee for Safiya to put her foot on, in order to ride (on the camel). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522)

According to Muslim sources, Muhammad’s attack on the Khaybar Jews took place in 630 AD. (7 AH.). (Cf. Guillaume, p. 510)

When Muhammad came to Medina in the year 623 AD. (A.H. 1), Safiyyah was young:

    He took them past the waterhole of Liqf, then down to Madlajatu Mahaj (276), then past Marjih, Mahaj, then down to Marjih of Dhu’l-Ghadwayn (277), then the valley of Dhu Kashr; then by al-Jadajid, then al-Ajrad, then Dhu Salam of the valley of A‘da’, the waterhole of Ta‘hin, then by al-Ababid (278), then by way of al-Fajja (279). Then he took them down to al-‘Arj; and one of their mounts having dropped behind, a man of Aslam, Aus b. Hujr by name, took the prophet to Medina on his camel which was called Ibn al-Rida’, sending with him a servant called Mas‘ud b. Hunayda. From ‘Arj the guide took them to Thaniyyatu’l-A’ir (280) to the right of Rakuba until he brought them down to the valley of Ri’m; thence to Quba’ to B. ‘Amr b. ‘Auf on Monday 12th Rabi‘u’l-awwal at high noon. (Guillaume, pp. 226-227)

    ‘Abdullah b. Abu Bakr b. Muhammad b. ‘Amr b. Hazm told me that he was told that Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab said ‘I was the favourite child of my father and y uncle Abu Yasir. When I was present they took no notice of their other children. When the apostle was staying in Quba’ with B. ‘Amr b. ‘Auf, the two went to see him before daybreak and did not return until after nightfall, weary, worn out, drooping and feeble.’ I went up to them in childish pleasure as I always did, and they were so sunk in gloom that they took no notice of me. I heard my uncle say to my father, "Is he he? Do you recognize him, and can you be sure?" "Yes!" "And what do you say about him?" "By God I shall be his enemy as long as I live!"’ (Ibid., pp. 241-242)

Thus, we can safely assume that Safiyyah was still young, perhaps in her mid to late teens, when Muhammad married her. Muhammad died in 632 AD. (A.H. 9), or roughly two years after marrying Safiyyah. One Muslim website says that she was seventeen when Muhammad married her, meaning that she was roughly twenty when he died:

    Safiyah was born in Medinah. She belonged to the Jewish tribe of Banu 'I-Nadir. When this tribe was expelled from Medinah in the year 4 A.H, Huyaiy was one of those who settled in the fertile colony of Khaibar together with Kinana ibn al-Rabi' to whom Safiyah was married a little before the Muslims attacked Khaibar. She was then seventeen. She had formerly been the wife of Sallam ibn Mishkam, who divorced her. (Source)

In other words, Muhammad not only took Safiyyah as his wife after killing her family and husband, but he also left her a young widow for the rest of her life!

To see what Muhammad did to Safiyyah’s husband, please read this article.

Muhammad also had a "revelation" forbidding his wives from leaving their homes:

    O wives of the Prophet! you are not like any other of the women; If you will be on your guard, then be not soft in (your) speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease yearn; and speak a good word. AND STAY IN YOUR HOUSES and do not display your finery like the displaying of the ignorance of yore; and keep up prayer, and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Apostle. Allah only desires to keep away the uncleanness from you, O people of the House! and to purify you a (thorough) purifying. S. 33:32-33 Shakir

Here, again, are Ibn Kathir’s comments:

    <And stay in your houses,> means, stay in your houses and do not come out except for a purpose. One of the purposes mentioned in Shari`ah is prayer in the Masjid, so long as the conditions are fulfilled, as the Messenger of Allah said…

    <Do not prevent the female servants of Allah from the Masjids of Allah, but have them go out without wearing fragrance.> According to another report…

    <even though their houses are better for them.> (Source)

For more on this subject, we highly recommend this Shia article.

According to Muslim sources, Aisha died in the year 678 AD., at the approximate age of 66 (source). Al-Tabari wrote:

    ‘A’isha died in Ramadan 58/June-July 678…

    According to Muhammad b. ‘Umar [al-Waqidi]: ‘A’ishah died on Tuesday night, the 17th of Ramadan 58/July 13, 678, and was buried the same night after the night prayer. She was then sixty-six years old. (The History of Al-Tabari, Volume XXXIX, p. 173)

This means that Aisha was to remain a childless widow, locked in her house, till the day she died. Aisha lived as a widow for 47 years till she died!

Far from being an act of mercy, this was one of the worst curses a young maiden could ever experience in her life. To think that women such as Aisha and Safiyyah never had the joy of raising their own children or of having a husband to comfort them and meet all their needs for the rest of their lives is truly heart wrenching to say the least.

Yet, sadly, we are sure that this won’t bother many Muslims since they are accustomed to believing that everything Muhammad did was by divine inspiration. They assume that he was a true prophet and so whatever he did must be right after all. But we trust that other Muslims who are open to the truth can see that Muhammad marrying Aisha and Safiyyah was a curse that they had to live with till they died.

For more on Muhammad’s marriages and his wives, we recommended the following articles:

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/holy_family.htm
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/reply_to_apologist.htm
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/safiyah.htm
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/zeinab.htm


But Wait, There Is More!

Before concluding this part, we must mention that Muhammad wasn’t the only one whom Allah allegedly "gave permission" to marry a prepubescent girl. The readers may be shocked to discover that the Quran actually permits other Muslims to marry prepubescent girls also! Note carefully what the following verse says:

    And if you are in doubt as to the prescribed period for such of your women as have despaired of monthly courses, then know that the prescribed period for them is three months, and also for such as do not have their monthly courses yet. And as for those who are with child, their period shall be until they are delivered of their burden. And whoso fears ALLAH, HE will provide facilities for him in his affair. S. 65:4 Sher Ali

The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles! Thus, Islam permits men to marry prepubescent girls and even divorce them if they so choose!

We find the following narration in Sahih Al-Bukhari:

    Narrated Sahl bin Sad:
    While we were sitting in the company of the Prophet a woman came to him and presented herself (for marriage) to him. The Prophet looked at her, lowering his eyes and raising them, but did not give a reply. One of his companions said, "Marry her to me O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet asked (him), "Have you got anything?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Not even an iron ring?" He said, "Not even an iron ring, but I will tear my garment into two halves and give her one half and keep the other half." The Prophet; said, "No. Do you know some of the Quran (by heart)?" He said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an (as her Mahr)." 'And for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature). (65.4) And the 'Iddat for the girl BEFORE PUBERTY is three months (in the above Verse). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 63; emphasis ours)

Ibn Kathir writes regarding this verse:

    <divorce them at their `Iddah>, "The `Iddah is made up of cleanliness and the menstrual period." So he divorces her while it is clear that she is pregnant, or he does not due to having sex, or since he does not know if she is pregnant or not. This is why the scholars said that there are two types of divorce, one that conforms to the Sunnah and another innovated. The divorce that conforms to the Sunnah is one where the husband pronounces one divorce to his wife when she is not having her menses and without having had sexual intercourse with her after the menses ended. One could divorce his wife when it is clear that she is pregnant. As for the innovated divorce, it occurs when one divorces his wife when she is having her menses, or after the menses ends, has sexual intercourse with her and then divorces her, even though he does not know if she became pregnant or not. There is a third type of divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an innovation where one divorces A YOUNG WIFE WHO HAS NOT BEGUN TO HAVE MENSES, the wife who is beyond the age of having menses, and divorcing one's wife before the marriage was consummated. (Source; bold and capital emphasis ours)

And:

    The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses

    Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. [see 2:228] The same for THE YOUNG, WHO HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION…

    <Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who have no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay down their burden.> Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat Al-Baqarah was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah said, `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the Qur'an. There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed… (Source; bold and capital emphasis ours)

A prominent Salafi Muslim site states:

    Firstly:

    Marriage to a young girl before she reaches puberty is permissible according to sharee'ah, and it was narrated that there was scholarly consensus on this point.

    1 - Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise"

    [al-Talaaq 65:4]

    In this verse we see that Allaah states that for those who do not menstruate - because they are young and have not yet reached the age of puberty - the 'iddah in the case of divorce is three months. This clearly indicates that it is permissible for a young girl who has not started her periods to marry.

    Al-Tabari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for girls who do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands divorce them after consummating the marriage with them.

    Tafseer al-Tabari, 14/142

    2 - It was narrated from 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine, and she stayed with him for nine years.

    Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4840; Muslim, 1422.

    Ibn 'Abd al-Barr said:

    The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married 'Aa'ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.

    Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50.

    Secondly:

    The fact that it is permissible to marry a minor girl does not imply that it is permissible to have intercourse with her, rather the husband should not have intercourse with her until she becomes able for that. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) delayed consummating the marriage to 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her).

    And Allaah knows best.

    Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)
    (Question #12708: Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses?; bold emphasis ours)

The last point ties in with the sources we quoted above that mentioned Muhammad's practice of "thighing" Aisha because she wasn't ready for consummation. Another article on the same site states:

    Marrying a young girl before she reaches the age of adolescence is permitted in sharee'ah; indeed it was narrated that there was scholarly consensus on this point.

    (a) Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise"

    [al-Talaaq 65:4]

    In this verse we see that Allaah has made the 'iddah in the case of divorce of a girl who does not have periods - because she is young and has not yet reached puberty - three months. This clearly indicates that Allaah has made this a valid marriage.

    (b) It was narrated from 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married her when she was six years old, he consummated the marriage with her when she was nine and she stayed with him for nine years.

    (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4840; Muslim, 1422)

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married 'Aa'ishah when she was six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine."

    (Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim; Muslim says 'seven years')

    The fact that it is permissible to marry a young girl does not mean that it is permissible to have intercourse with her; rather that should not be done until she is able for it. For that reason the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) delayed the consummation of his marriage to 'Aa'ishah. Al-Nawawi said: With regard to the wedding-party of a young married girl at the time of consummating the marriage, if the husband and the guardian of the girl agree upon something that will not cause harm to the young girl, then that may be done. If they disagree, then Ahmad and Abu 'Ubayd say that once a girl REACHES THE AGE OF NINE then the marriage may be consummated EVEN WITHOUT HER CONSENT, but that does not apply in the case of who is younger. Maalik, al-Shaafa'i and Abu Haneefah said: the marriage may be consummated when the girl is able for intercourse, which varies from one girl to another, SO NO AGE LIMIT CAN BE SET. THIS IS THE CORRECT VIEW. There is nothing in the hadeeth of 'Aa'ishah to set an age limit, or to forbid that in the case of a girl who is able for it before the age of nine, or to allow it in the case of a girl who is not able for it and has reached the age of nine. Al-Dawoodi said: 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was[sic] reached physical maturity (at the time when her marriage was consummated). (Question #22442: On acting; and the ruling on marrying young girls; bold and capital emphasis ours)

Taking the supposed correct view as a given this means that a person can actually engage a girl of seven in sex provided that she can handle it!

Actually, this raises a number of uncomfortable questions: Who decides when she is ready? Judging by the above quotations, being ready for intercourse is apparently defined in a merely physical way. Does it simply mean that the penis is able to slide in without tearing her up? Are other biological and psychological aspects of maturity of any concern at all? Furthermore, by what method is the husband supposed to test whether or not she is ready now? How many times should he be trying to penetrate her only to discover it doesn't work yet? How much damage is that doing to a little girl? This article gives more information on various relevant aspects of maturity.

For more on this entire subject, we recommend this newsgroup discussion.

This isn’t the only Muslim website which acknowledges that Islam permits marriages with minors. Here is another site that does so as well:

    Second marriage possible under these conditions. i would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?

    I am 45 and married to already 15 years now after the sexual desire of my woman has nearly gone I am looking to marry again. And I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed, my first wife told me that it could make problems if it will be a big different in age, and also some of my children are older than my second wife. What is your advise ? And is it allowed for me to have already sexual intercourse with these woman after we are married or to I have to wait till she reach at special age?

    Answer 6737 2002-10-01

    According to the Shari’ah, if a girl is a minor (did not attain puberty), she may be given in marriage by her father. When she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage. There is no age limit to be intimate with one’s wife even if she is a minor.

    It is important for you, in your situation, to consider the age difference reservation expressed by your wife.

    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai

    (Islam Q&A Online With Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Darul Ifta, Madrasah In’aamiyah, Camperdown, South Africa; source; dated 2002-10-01; accessed 19 December 2005)

More importantly, the Quran teaches that there is no waiting period for marriages that have not been consummated:

    O you who believe: When you marry believing women and then divorce them before you have touched them, no period of idda (waiting) have you to count in respect of them: so give them a present and set them free in a graceful manner. S. 33:49

The foregoing indicates that the waiting period could only be applicable if the man has actually slept with the young prepubescent girl! In other words, Islam is allowing men to have sex with minors, legally sanctioning pedophilia!

In the next part, we will examine and address the typical Muslim responses and defenses of Muhammad’s marriage to a nine-year-old girl. Continue with Part 2: Analyzing the Claims of Muslim Polemicists.

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Islamic Misyar or temporary traveler's marriage
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 01:44:42 PM »
Since this post is a separate subject I decided to dedicate a thread to it. Please reply to "misyar" there.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2590.0

And for the convenience of the horny Islamic traveler we have the Misyar or traveler's marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Misyar#Background_and_causes

"Some people consider that the misyar marriage can meet the needs of young people whose resources are too limited to settle down in a separate home; of divorcees, widows or widowers, who have their own residence and their own financial resources but cannot, or do not want to marry again according to the usual formula; and of slightly elder people who have not tasted the joys of marriage.

Islamic lawyers add that this type of marriage fits the needs of a conservative society which punishes “zina” (fornication) and other sexual relationships which are established outside a marriage contract. Thus, some Muslim foreigners working in the Persian Gulf countries prefer to engage in the misyar marriage rather than live alone for years. Many of them are actually already married with wives and children in their home country, but they cannot bring them to the region[citation needed]."

Wowie! Isn't it lucky that they won't have to have been guilty of fornication thanks to a "marriage" contract!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Misyar#Misyar_marriage_in_practice

"In addition to the preceding cases, wealthy Arab men sometimes enter into a Misyar marriage while on vacation, in order to have sexual relations with another woman without committing the sin of zina. They usually divorce the women once their holiday is over. However, that if this is understood by both parties at the time of conclusion of the marriage contract (and this is usually the case), this would constitute a fixed time period, effectively making such a marriage invalid in Sunni law, and more akin to the Nikah Mut'ah.

The Sheikh of al-Azhar Mosque Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi and theologian Yusuf Al-Qaradawi note, in their writings and in their lectures, that a major proportion of the men who take a spouse in the framework of the misyar marriage are already married men.[2]

Many of the men involved would not marry a second wife within the regime of normal Islamic polygamy, because of the heavy financial burdens, moral obligations & responsibilities it places on the husband. But, they opt for the option of misyar marriage when the theologians declare it licit.[3]"


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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 01:39:29 PM »
It occurred to me that if someone got caught trying this thoroughly reprobate perverted behavior in the U.S., the perp would not only get locked up in prison, but he would be killed within days by morally outraged convicted felons as is often the case with child molesters. Even most convicted felons can still discern the difference between right and wrong.

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 03:39:51 PM »
Chat with magnifier2020 was unrelated to the subject of this video so it has been moved to the "Faith of Atheism" category.
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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2013, 06:30:02 AM »
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm
Sexual Perversion in Islam

by IE Blog

05 May, 2007
Pedophilia

Let me begin with a quote from a fatwa by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.

    "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."

You need not fear that your Muslim male baby-sitter will rape your 7-year-old daughter. If he is a good MuslimMullah_kissing_boy_1 he will only sodomize her. If he does force his penis into her tiny vagina he is obligated to pay for any surgical repairs that may be required. If those repairs are deemed insufficient you may work out a financial settlement to compensate you for his trivial infraction. No big deal. Muslim boys will be Muslim boys. And, after all, she is only a girl.

Other forms of sexual abuse inflicted on children by Muslim male family members include fondling of genitals, coercing a child to fondle the abuser's genitals, masturbation with the child as either participant or observer, oral sex, anal or vaginal penetration by penis, finger or any other object. Another technique used by Muslim men is called "thighing". The child's legs are pressed together and the abuser inserts his penis between the thighs of the little boy or girl. As this was how Mohammed had sex with his wife, Aisha, from the time she was six years old the practice, of course, was approved of by Ayatollah Khomeini who in his Little Green Book asserted “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Yes, indeed, you can be a good Muslim while copulating with the thighs of an infant. An Arab woman vigorously denounces this vile practice in the following video clip from Bahrain TV.  Her denunciation of the "thighing" of infants and young girls comes towards the end of the interview.

This practice flourishes in Muslim countries where women are ruthlessly oppressed and normal sexual development systematically suppressed. That would include the Arab world, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Deny men wholesome and natural sexual outlets and they will find unwholesome and unnatural alternatives.

The Grand Ayatollah's full ruling on marriage can be found here.  The institution of "temporary marriage" appears to be designed to facilitate prostitution.  A USA Today article tells the story.

More http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 05:08:11 AM »
Manama: Police in Saudi Arabia have arrested five people in connection with the rape of a three-year-old girl. The suspects, three men and two women, were apprehended in the Red Sea city of Jeddah, the police spokesman for the local police, Nawaf Al Bouq, said.
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/girl-3-raped-in-saudi-5-arrested-1.1249182

"(Quran 65: 4) “And ( as for ) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and ( as for ) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of ( his duty to ) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.”

This gives Muslim men full permission to rape pre-pubescent girls, to take child brides, and to do with them what they will. There are no steadfast rules, completely justifying and encouraging the act of rape in any form or fashion. Mohammad was a pedophile and rapist. Why wouldn’t his present day followers do the same?"

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/saudi-islamists-gang-rape-3-year-old-girl-rupturing-her-insides/#yYtQsrDG8RPhat3B.99


"Earlier this month, a Saudi preacher convicted of torturing his 5-year-old daughter with a cane and cables and beating her to death in 2011 was sentenced to eight years in prison and 600 lashes after paying blood money to the family of the girl’s mother. The killing was reportedly motivated by the father’s suspicions about the girl’s virginity.

Earlier this year, another Saudi cleric called on parents to dress their female babies in a burka, to reduce their chance of being molested."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/30/saudi-men-accused-of-gang-raping-a-3-year-old-yes-a-3-year-old/

The fruit of men that see women as sex objects and chattel:  "Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women,.....

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 08:06:52 AM »
"Thighing" is an Islamic practice still followed today even in Muslim communities in the U.S. and Britain:

Regarding the practice of "thighing", the masterbating between the legs of a female infant or actually sodomizing her, Islamic clerics have this to say:

Pedophilia decrees from www.islamic-fatwa.net

Question 1809

After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)

Question:‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children.(mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child).

What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ?

Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

“It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”

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Re: Sex With Infants and Children in Islam "thighing"
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 11:32:41 AM »
 Muhammad and the Thighing of Aisha
There's been an interesting debate in recent years between Christian apologists and Westernized Muslim apologists over the Islamic practice of "thighing," which involves a Muslim (more specifically, Muhammad) putting his penis between the thighs of a virgin (or a woman during her monthly period) and moving back and forth until he ejaculates.

As usual, Christian apologists got this accusation from Muslim scholars, who refer to the practice in their fatwas (legal rulings by Islamic scholars). The problem is that, whenever we link to a fatwa discussing the Islamic practice of thighing, Westernized Muslims complain to the fatwa site administrators, and the administrators then remove the fatwa. Once the fatwa is removed, Westernized Muslims accuse us of inventing the issue of thighing in order to attack Muhammad!

Just so there's no denying the fact that Muslim scholars issue such rulings, here's a screenshot of a fatwa on thighing that is still available at Islam Web (though it may be taken down once this article circulates):

At the link:
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/03/muhammad-and-thighing-of-aisha.html

But this won't convince Westernized Muslim apologists, who, despite their profound ignorance of their own sources, nevertheless believe that they know more about Islam than their scholars and jurists. They will settle for nothing less than a clear Qur'an statement declaring: "Thus saith Allah on the issue of thighing . . .," and even here they would simply reinterpret the passage!

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http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/JenniferKing50718p2.htm

PEDOPHILIA LAWS FROM ISLAMIC-FATWA.NET 

Question 1809

After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar) 

Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child) What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her.’ 

Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

As for the prophet, thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men. 

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 

“It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”

Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12 

"Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?"

"The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

 

MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET OF ISLAM

PART 1 MECCA 

An Arab is regarded as an old man, a sheik, when he is fifty.

Muhammad married Aisha when she was six years old in Mecca and she joined him in Medina three years later when he was 53. He began having sex with Aisha when she was nine years old and still playing with dolls. 

This is the original story told by the ONLY valid biographers of Muhammad and Islam, Ibn Ishaq and Tabari, and the hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim. Refer also to the works of the Qur’an commentators Ibn Kathir and Ibn Qayyim. (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume II, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, Garnet Publishing Limited, UK. The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, 2000. pp. 93-94)

(Ibn Qayyim Al-Juaziyyah, Zad-ul Ma’ad fi Hadyi Khairi-l ‘Ibad (Provisions for the Hereafter, From the Guidance of Allah’s Best Worshipper) translated by Jalal Abualrub, [Madinah Publishers & Distributors, December 2000] Volume I, pp. 157-158) 

Muhammad said that he had dreamed of Aisha before demanding her from her father, and his own brother in Islam, Abu Bakr, claiming special ‘prophets rights’ when Abu Bakr was reluctant to give her to him. 

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 235: Narrated 'Aisha: That the Prophet said to her, "You have been shown to me twice in my dreams. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and someone said to me, 'This is your wife.' When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is from Allah, it will be done." 

Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother!"

The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." 

Marriage to a female already offered to another was illegal in Arab law. Abu

Bakr had already arranged for Aisha to marry Djubayr Mutim. 

Muhammad married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad) translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, p. 792) 

Tabari VII:7 “The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six.”

Tabari IX:128  “When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation.” [The History of Al-Tabari: The Foundation of the Community] translated by M.V. McDonald annotated by W. Montgomery Watt [State University of New York Press, Albany 1987], Volume VII, pp. 6-7) (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, pp. 129-130) 

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.

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