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Peter

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Serpent Seed Basics
« on: April 25, 2012, 06:50:26 AM »
This original post will continue to be under construction as I complete, among other things, the listing of anti-Zionist groups and those that hold the serpent seed doctrine.

[added 3-16-13 minister Fortson on Serpent Seed http://ministerfortson.com/serpentseed/?tag=seed-of-the-serpent (blog - first article at bottom)]

The reasons this subject is in the pit is because it is contrary to nearly 2,000 years of core Christian doctrine, was condemned by early church fathers, but mainly because it breeds racist and antisemitic hatred, and was used by Hitler toward the genocide of millions of Jews in Germany.

Arnold Murray spun his own unique sugar coated version of the serpent seed doctrine, that one might call "serpent seed lite", through Murray's - unique to any other holders of this heresy - "Kenite" spin. As one engages more with Murray's followers it becomes increasingly clear that the focus of their hatred is on modern-day "Kenites" that Murray invented as a thinly veiled substitute for "Jew", to make the hatred more palatable to some that believe themselves to be Christian. For example suggesting that "Kenites" rule the world, as a substitute for "Jews", as from the Protocols of Zion and such. At least Nazis are honest about their hatred of Jews.
Murray's followers (you can click on the quotes for the context in the chats)?

"For the last time I DO NOT HATE JEWS. Can you read at all?? Just those that CLAIM to be but to LIE."

"sure you can accuse me of being racist, I hate all the seedline that satan has sown."

1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

But Murray's "doctrine of devils" has them deceived into believing that they don't hate their brothers, but only the spawn of Satan.

In the first case justifying his hatred of persons, because God expressed hatred of Esau/evil. Even expects Israel to become the capitol of the world.

The main reason it would seem folks desire to follow Arnold Murray is so that they can demonize Israeli Jews and Zionism - right along with the anti-Zionism of Nazis, skinheads, Muslims David Duke and the KKK, Louis Farrakan and the Nation of Islam, the Soviets, and antisemites of all stripes. The truth regarding the anti-Zionist tree is apparent to a Christian through the Gospel:

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The scriptures repeatedly divide mankind into two physical groups of Jew and gentile. They also divide mankind into two spiritual groups of faithful and unfaithful, believers and nonbelievers, those that sought out and received new hearts and those that haven't.
Murray cloaks the serpent seed doctrine's focus on division of mankind in the physical, Jew, gentile, race, skin color, ethnicity and other such physical attributes, by mingling it in with familiar themes, like mankind being divided into good and evil. However when Christians recognize that evil people are "of the devil" in a spiritual sense, serpent seed followers believe evil people are the physical spawn of Satan, through a physical sexual union between the serpent and Eve that produced Cain. As one investigates further, the thin veil begins to lift, as one learns that divisions of mankind among Murray's followers - that good and evil - is a division between Zionists and anti-Zionists, with particular emphasis on demonizing Zionist genetic Jews in Israel. The bottom line for those that began their indoctrination into Murray's cult and then went on to full blown serpent seed doctrine. The purpose of the enemy in this doctrine is to put hatred of persons in people's hearts.


Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

One follower of Murray boldly proclaiming "Eve is lying in gen 4:1"
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3216.msg13370#msg13370

Are secular and atheist Jews at the top of things like Hollywood and banking? Maybe even a few faithful Jews are too. But Jews are also at the top of physics, literature, economics, medicine, chemistry, electronics, and are even innovators in such as agriculture. Composing just .02% of the world's population while claiming about 20% of Nobel prizes.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2852.0

Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

The serpent seed doctrine is also held by the "Identity" movement that preach it full-on. Former members of Murray's cult go on to preach the hard-core Identity doctrine, then accusing Murray of only going half-way. In other words, Murray's half-way-there spin serves as a stepping stone, for folks to continue down the road of dividing humanity into groups by genetics and the color of one's skin, rather than the condition of one's heart.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/gravette-ar/TM45HVG5UC1PI7AG0

Arnold Murray's spun his own unique sugar coated version of the serpent seed doctrine, that one might call "serpent seed lite", through Murray's - unique to the Christian era - "Kenite" spin. The serpent seed doctrine is also held by the "Identity" movement that preach it full-on. Former members of Murray's cult go on to preach the hard-core Identity doctrine, then accusing Murray of only going half-way. In other words, Murray's half-way-there spin serves as a stepping stone, for folks to continue down the road of dividing humanity into groups by genetics and the color of one's skin, rather than the condition of one's heart.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/gravette-ar/TM45HVG5UC1PI7AG0

The scriptures repeatedly divide mankind into two physical groups of Jew and gentile. They also divide mankind into two spiritual groups of faithful and unfaithful, believers and nonbelievers, those that sought out and received new hearts and those that haven't.
Murray cloaks the serpent seed doctrine's division of mankind focus on the physical, Jew, gentile, race, ethnicity, and such physical attributes, by mingling it in with familiar themes, like mankind being divided into good and evil. However when Christians recognize that evil people are "of the devil" in a spiritual sense, serpent seed followers believe evil people are the physical spawn of Satan, through a physical sexual union between the serpent and Eve, that produced Cain. As one investigates further, the thin veil begins to lift as one learns that divisions of mankind among Murray's followers - that is good and evil - is more of a division between Zionists and anti-Zionists, with particular emphasis on demonizing Zionist genetic Jews in Israel. That is bottom line, or end result, the enemy is seeking. Hatred of persons. Some that began their indoctrination into Murray's cult then go on to disseminate full-blown serpent seed doctrine.

Murray is also a false prophet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xBPsL5ELoU
Like other false prophets he keeps his followers in bondage by suggesting that if you aren't with him you aren't with God.

The failed 1981 predictions of "the" antichrist by a former follower of Murray. Was even married by him. Includes complete false prophecy lectures.
http://oraclesofgod.org/1980/1980.htm
In reference to his now-failed parallels, through which he made his false prophecies in 1980, Murray had quipped:
"Beloved, if you believe that all that ... is a coincidence, then you are not one of God's elect."
http://oraclesofgod.org/1980/1980.htm

Some that have held or used the serpent seed doctrine include Hitler, who was also influenced by the famous 19th century satanist Madame Helena Blavatsky, and used the serpent seed line doctrine to advance the genocide of millions of Jews in Germany. Others that hold the serpent seed doctrine include Nazis, Aryans and skinheads that hold the serpent seed heresy. Nor are they concerned that the anti-Zionism this doctrine produces, and hatred for Israeli Jews, couples them with Soviets, the U.N., Louis Farrakan and his Nation of Islam, who's anti-Zionism supports Muhammad's followers conquest of Israel and their slaughter and subjugation of Israeli Jews and Christians.

By hating, accusing and condemning Israeli Jews, the followers of this doctrine join forces with Muhammad's followers, so many of whom desire the genocide of Jews in Israel today. To "kill the Jews" and "drive them into the sea". Including the wishes of leaders of Islamic nation states.

Here's why Muhammad's followers demonize Jews and are engaged in conquest of Israel:
http://www.brotherpete.com/jihad.htm





Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." (Book #52, Hadith #177)

John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.





"'Christians must accept Islamic rule'
Militant leader in Gaza says missionaries will be 'dealt with harshly,' demands women wear headscarfs.
Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist´╗┐ militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."


1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Those of us that haven't been indoctrinated into this racist cult of hate shouldn't have too much trouble discerning its nature, if only by considering the fruit.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Yet those that hold the serpent seed line doctrine are completely unconcerned about joining company with the groups listed above.

hillbillybushcraft for example wrote: "I could care less what these groups believe."
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3166.msg13354#msg13354
hillbillybushcraft on hatred
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3166.msg13390#msg13390

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Re: Serpent Seed Basics
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 06:53:33 AM »
Nor have any of them responded to Daniel's pinning the dates of the end of the scattered strength of Jews in 1948 and 1967, both mathematically and textually.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

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Re: Serpent Seed Basics
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 08:28:14 AM »
Nor will you find them the least bit concerned, that through their serpent seed doctrine and hatred of Israeli Jews, they support Muhammad's followers conquest of Israel, to the demise of Jews - AND CHRISTIANS that were formerly afforded protection under Israeli rule.

"'Christians must accept Islamic rule'
Militant leader in Gaza says missionaries will be 'dealt with harshly,' demands women wear headscarfs.
Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist´╗┐ militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."

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Re: Serpent Seed Basics
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 08:04:08 AM »


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Re: Serpent Seed Basics
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2013, 11:23:14 AM »
Bertrand Comparet's "serpent seed" and "kenites" also big in "Christian Identity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

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Re: Serpent Seed Basics
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 04:35:51 AM »
Christian Research Institute

ARNOLD MURRAY AND THE SHEPHERD'S CHAPEL

A teacher who has recently become popular over television is a man named Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel in Gravette, Arkansas. We at the Christian Research Institute do not endorse the teachings of Arnold Murray. This paper will demonstrate why we consider Mr. Murray's teachings to be heretical.

THE CULTIC TEACHINGS OF ARNOLD MURRAY
http://deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html