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"The Case For Israel" by Alan Dershowitz
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:50:32 AM »
In the Zionism section there is a thread regarding a Muslim student that was converted from being the typical college campus (Saudi) propagandized, Israeli Jew hating, anti-Zionist, into being pro-Zionism and loving Jews, solely from his reading this book. Please move to that thread at the following link, for discussion about that student.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3730.0

After reading his article I bought the book and found it full of very useful information. The table of contents is a list of 37 questions with the mostly short chapters providing answers, so it makes it easy to skip around, and perhaps even handy to offer a preview to an anti-Zionist as they could go directly to the biggest question regarding Zionism that they have, and read the answer in a few minutes.

Certainly if given half a thought to the subject, no rational Israeli non-Muslim would prefer to be ruled under the dhimmitude of Sharia by Muhammad's followers, than to continue to enjoy the protection of the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination offered by the Israeli Jewish State. The entire rest of the Middle East - and more recently the Gaza Strip - makes it painfully obvious what that would be like.
http://www.zionismchristian.com/palestine_palestinians.htm
How many Israeli Muslims would even prefer Israel was converted into just another Middle East, sharia law ruled, little girl circumcising, child doing, multiple wife and concubine beating, Christian and Jew persecuting and murdering, imperialistic Islamic slave state?
How many Israeli Muslim women in particular, would want to live the way their counterparts are subjected to in Muslim majority states? Like in Saudi Arabia where they are locked in their house from when their husband leaves in the morning until he returns home, and Saudi Arabia and Malaysia where women are divorced by text messaging: "I divorce you" three times, that puts former wives and the mother of their children out in the street, as the "husband" moves on to his next victims. With some Muslim men while in wedlock, believing their "religion" even licenses temporary "marriages" for as brief a period as 24 hours, thus being taught to believe it isn't adultery.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=2590.0

Much of the protesting in the Middle East today, is by Muslims who desire democracy, rather than being ruled the only way Islamic slave states have ever been able to be ruled, by despotic murderous iron-fisted totalitarian regimes. This is of course because freedom, liberty and the right to self-determination are the very antithesis of Islam, that must maintain a constant vigil of censoring and persecuting truth.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4220976,00.html    

The Muslim student that had this conversion of the heart is one of precious few that exhibits a capacity for critical thought. As such I wonder how long it will be before he leaves Muhammadanism.
Please read the article at the link provided.

Muslim, Zionist and proud

Op-ed: His father praised Hitler, but Kasim Hafeez writes about love for Israel, Jewish people

Kasim Hafeez
Published:    04.25.12, 17:27 / Israel Opinion
   
Muslim, Zionist and proud

"I am a Zionist, a proud Muslim Zionist, and I love Israel, but this was not always the case. In fact, for many years I was quite the extreme opposite. I experienced the high levels of anti-Semitism and anti-Israel activity taking place on British university campuses, because I was the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel activist.

Growing up in the Muslim community in the UK I was exposed to materials and opinions at best condemning Israel, painting Jews as usurpers and murderers, and at worse calling for the wholesale destruction of the "Zionist Entity" and all Jews. In short, there was no accommodating a Jewish State in the Middle East.

To grow up around this constant barrage of hatred directed at Israel has a massive effect on an individual’s own opinions. More disturbingly, many of these people weren’t radical or extreme, but when it was about Israel the most vicious of rhetoric poured out, coupled with the casual anti-Semitism that seemed too prevalent, when the phrase "stop being a Jew" used as an insult.

My father, however, was much more brazen in his hatred, boasting of how Adolf Hitler was a hero, his only failing being that he didn't kill enough Jews.

By the time I had reached 18 I was completely indoctrinated to the fold of radical Islamism. My hate for Israel and for the Jews was fuelled by images of death and destruction, set to the backdrop of Arabic melodies about Jihad and speeches of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah or Osama Bin Laden.

These views were reinforced when I attended Nakba Day rallies, where speakers predicted Israel's demise as Hezbollah flags were waved proudly in the centre of London.

The Case for Israel

Was there a case for Israel? In my mind, of course not, there was no shadow of doubt. Even the most moderate clerics I came across refused to condemn terrorism against Israel as unjustified; the Jews must obviously deserve it, I believed.

So what changed? How could I go from all this hatred to the great love for and affinity with Israel and the Jewish people? I found myself in the Israel and Palestine section of a local bookstore and picked up a copy of Alan Dershowitz’s The Case for Israel. Given my worldview, the Jews and Americans controlled the media, so after brief look at the back, I scoffed thinking "vile Zionist propaganda."

I did, however, decide to buy it, content that I would shortly be deconstructing this propaganda piece, showing that Israel had no case and claiming my findings as a personal victory for the Palestinian cause.

As I read Dershowitz’s arguments and deconstruction of many lies I saw as unquestionable truths, I searched despairingly for counter arguments, but found more hollow rhetoric that I’d believed for many years. I felt a real crisis of conscience, and thus began a period of unbiased research. Up until that point I had not been exposed to anything remotely positive about Israel.

Now, I didn't know what to believe. I'd blindly followed others for so long, yet here I was questioning whether I had been wrong. I reached a point where I felt I had no other choice but to see Israel for myself; only that way I’d really know the truth. At the risk of sounding cliché, it was a life-changing visit.

No apartheid state

I did not encounter an apartheid racist state, but rather, quite the opposite. I was confronted by synagogues, mosques and churches, by Jews and Arabs living together, by minorities playing huge parts in all areas of Israeli life, from the military to the judiciary. It was shocking and eye-opening. This wasn't the evil Zionist Israel that I had been told about.

After much soul searching, I knew what I had once believed was wrong. I had been confronted with the truth and had to accept it. But I had a bigger question to confront, what now? I’d for years campaigned against Israel, but now I knew the truth."

Please read on:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4220976,00.html

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Re: "The Case For Israel" by Alan Dershowitz
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 08:50:32 AM »
Read this book while on my trip out west recently. The kind of book that you wish everyone in the world would read.