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This subject came up in a chat with a Muslim in here not long ago.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=5091.msg19446#msg19446
While not quite as entertaining as their believing that Solomon rode around with his army on a giant flying carpet, Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall, which I thought was entertaining enough to deserve its own thread.

It was Bukhari & Muslim - who didn't pen their Hadiths until about 250 years after Muhammad died - that made the claim, that Muslims are still obligated to believe even in today's world. As we Bing search the subject it would seem those men were supposed to have known what went on millions of years before themselves. Perhaps it was transmitted orally, over those millions of years, by the Quraish pagans who worshiped 360 idols.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=5091.0

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:  "Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809)"

Narrated Abu Huraira:  The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

Narrated Abu Huraira:  Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:  "The first group of my Ummah to get into Paradise would be like a full moon in the night. Then those who would be next to them; they would be like the most significantly glittering stars in regard to brightness, then after them (others) in ranks. They would neither void excrement, nor pass water, nor suffer from catarrh, nor would they spit. And their combs would be made of gold, and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and their form would be the form of one single person according to the length of their father sixty cubits tall. This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Ibn Abi Shaiba with a slight variation of wording.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6796)"

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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2016, 08:12:06 AM »
Perhaps the question begs, why would Adam build a kaaba that would only come up to his waist in height? For his dog to worship in?

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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2016, 05:02:21 PM »
"Tradition goes that the Kaaba was ordained by Allah to be built in the shape of the House in Heaven called Baitul Ma’amoor."

So another question begs. Was "Allah" so unskilled, as to have built a house in heaven, no two sides of which are even the same length?

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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 04:55:23 PM »
Perhaps the question begs, why would Adam build a structure, that wouldn't even measure up to his waist in height? For his dog?
« Last Edit: August 19, 2016, 05:04:14 PM by ps49 »

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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2016, 05:06:26 AM »
"Tradition goes that the Kaaba was ordained by Allah to be built in the shape of the House in Heaven called Baitul Ma’amoor."

Does the Baitul Ma’amoor in Heaven get inundated with sewage-laced floodwater, like the one in Mecca did?


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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2016, 08:24:48 PM »
No need to answer that or those questions.  Paradise doesn't exist and neither did a 90 ft Adam either!

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Re: Muslims are actually compelled to believe that Adam was 90 feet tall
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 06:15:37 AM »
No need to answer that or those questions.  Paradise doesn't exist......

At least not the chicken and wine serving bordello of Muhammad's overactive, carnal, imagination:
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=264.0

...... and neither did a 90 ft Adam either!