Defining the meaning of the word "Son"
Now in Isaiah 9:6 "....there has been a son given to us,.........",
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You cited one of the most blessed of the Messianic prophecies, that also affirms Yahshua's divinity!
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods" (Elohim; plural to El); you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s.
That's why context is important to understanding a term that can mean either God or god.
So in Isaiah 9.6 we can see that the Son that is given shall be called "The mighty God" and "The everlasting Father"
, so it should be painfully obvious to even someone like you, that the one true God Yahweh is meant.
Ye [are] gods
Old Testament Hebrew Definition:
plural of 0433; TWOT - 93c; n m p
AV - God
244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2,
angels 1, exceeding 1, God-ward + 04136 1, godly 1; 2606
1a) rulers, judges
1b) divine ones
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
2a) god, goddess
2b) godlike one
2c) works or special possessions of God
2d) the (true) God
The following quote is certainly not definitive as it is Wikipedia, but sometimes they get it right.
"Elohim (???????) is a plural formation of eloah, an expanded form of the Northwest Semitic noun il (???, ??l ). It is the usual word for "god" in the Hebrew Bible, referring both to pagan deities and to the God of Israel, usually with a singular meaning despite its plural form
, but is also used as a true plural with the meanings "spirits, angels, demons," and the like."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohimhttp://www.israelofgod.org/elohim1.htmsingular plural
And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, .......
is what "clearly shows" how untenable your false claim is regarding Isaiah 9:6 since He is also called "The mighty God
" and "The everlasting Father
And anotherIsaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Immanuel
Old Testament Hebrew Definition:
shortened from 0352; TWOT - 93a; n m
AV - God 213
, god 16, power 4, mighty 5, goodly 1, great 1, idols 1,
Immanuel + 06005 2, might 1, strong 1; 245
1) god, god-like one, mighty one
1a) mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes
1c) god, false god, (demons, imaginations)
1d) God, the one true God, Jehovah
2) mighty things in nature
3) strength, power
We can see from Strong's word count that Immanuel is translated as upper-case "God" 213 times in the Old Testament.
Fulfilled in Yahshua MessiahMatthew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
.... the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point out that any "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God".
And now the "answering-christianity" website antichrists are going to "point out" Scripture to us.
Punisher, when you copy and paste foolishness from liars, you become one of them.
Even a single verse shows the distinction in sons of God.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
All while ignoring that you yourself believe Jesus Christ is THE ONLY person in the history of mankind
, to be conceived by a virgin by the will of God.
Yet because of the turn of two phrases in Mohammed's ridiculous 7th century antichrist rantings, you are compelled to declare Jesus fatherless, directly contrary to hundreds of verses in Scripture that declare otherwise.http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=316.0http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=56.0